[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-18 Thread Gordon
phics on the screen, > not just read about them or have them described to me by a screen reader. Would it really kill you to provide an alt="description" attribute to said images who those using screen readers can at least get the gist? > > -----Original Message- > > F

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wow!! What fantastic news :)) Please will you hurry up, so I can get on with using entertaining jQuery effects? Cherry ;) On Feb 16, 4:52 pm, Colin Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Excitingly, we just > received a grant from the Mozilla Foundation to help the jQuery > community make jQuery more a

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-16 Thread Colin Clark
Hi everyone, I'm weighing into this thread late, but wanted to make a couple of quick comments. I agree with Chris' point that accessibility isn't only for the benefit of people with disabilities; it provides all kinds of value to everyone who uses the Web. Perhaps you've heard of the "ele

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-16 Thread Chris
On Feb 16, 8:49 am, "Richard D. Worth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 15, 2008 8:47 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On second thought... what event, exactly, is supposed to trigger this? > > Where is my onfontsizechange? > > See http://davecardwell.co.uk/javascript/jquery/plugins/jqu

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That told me. I'll download it this minute! Sorry. On Feb 16, 12:51 pm, Ariel Flesler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a quick note, jQuery.Accessible's main use is not the validator > shown in the demo, that's just an addition. What I really wished to do > is to actually improve accessibility

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-16 Thread Richard D. Worth
On Feb 15, 2008 8:47 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In a moment of delusion on Feb 15, 11:49 am, I wrote: > > > if (parseInt($("body").css("fontSize")) > 20) { // font-size in pixels > > > > // replace img with higher res source > > > > } > > On second thought... what event, exactly, i

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-16 Thread Chris
In a moment of delusion on Feb 15, 11:49 am, I wrote: > if (parseInt($("body").css("fontSize")) > 20) { // font-size in pixels > > // replace img with higher res source > > } On second thought... what event, exactly, is supposed to trigger this? Where is my onfontsizechange? --Chris

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-16 Thread Ariel Flesler
Just a quick note, jQuery.Accessible's main use is not the validator shown in the demo, that's just an addition. What I really wished to do is to actually improve accessibility with slight modifications of the dom. The plugin doesn't have many of those, 2 or 3. I hoped some people would contribute

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Very clearly argued, Chris - and this is too often forgotten! " > Following current best practices (starting with content, then adding > style and behavior on top of that) goes a long way toward > accessibility. > > (Also, keep in mind that accessibility isn't only for the benefit of > people wit

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread Chris
On Feb 15, 11:46 am, "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Internet, even as many forms of media as it employs, simply cannot > be for everyone, as the radio cannot accommodate the deaf and TV cannot > accommodate the blind. The problem is that because it is at its base a stream of t

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread Jeffrey Kretz
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 6:14 AM To: jQuery (English) Subject: [jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant I'm sorry, but your attitude sucks. As a) a jQuery developer and b) a person with serious eyesight problems I always take great care to ensure code

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Faircloth
08 11:50 AM > To: jQuery (English) > Subject: [jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant > > > On Feb 14, 11:31 pm, "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I've never thought of specifying image > > size in em's. The problem of imag

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread Chris
On Feb 14, 11:31 pm, "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've never thought of specifying image > size in em's. The problem of image degradation would > still be an issue, I'm sure, since an image may be > specified for display in em's in a browser, but would still start > its life in

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Faircloth
again, there has to be a line which people aren't expected to cross when it comes to accommodation. Rick > -Original Message- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:14 AM > To: jQuery (English

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread Karl Swedberg
tart, but if I were having great difficulty viewing the screen, I would want a solution that allows me to view images, as well. Rick -Original Message- From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:jquery- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t; > start, > > but if I were having great difficulty viewing the screen, I would want a > > solution that allows me to view images, as well. > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread Gordon
I'm sorry, but your attitude sucks. As a) a jQuery developer and b) a person with serious eyesight problems I always take great care to ensure code I develop doesn't impose accessibility issues. It really isn't that hard and your callous attitude towards doing work that's not only "politically c

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-15 Thread Benjamin Sterling
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > Behalf Of *Benjamin Sterling > *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:30 PM > *To:* jquery-en@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant > > > > Rick, I have not gotten into it too much because it has not been a > requ

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-14 Thread Rick Faircloth
4, 2008 10:30 PM To: jquery-en@googlegroups.com Subject: [jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant Rick, I have not gotten into it too much because it has not been a requirement, having just the alt/title tags is usually enough, but there has been talk over at the EPA accessiblity testing group to re

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-14 Thread Benjamin Sterling
age- > > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:51 PM > > To: jQuery (English) > > Subject: [jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant > > > > > > Wow,

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-14 Thread Rick Faircloth
TECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:51 PM > To: jQuery (English) > Subject: [jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant > > > Wow, I really appreciate both of your quick replies! > > Benjamin, I have seen yours & Richard's c

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wow, I really appreciate both of your quick replies! Benjamin, I have seen yours & Richard's contributions - knowing I'm not all alone is what's keeping me motivated ;) >From the accessibility plugin's demo page, it serves an accessibility reminder. Which is a start :) @JMoore - my point is thi

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-14 Thread Benjamin Sterling
Cherry, There are quite a few of us that would agree with you, Richard Worth and myself to name two, there is plugin but could not find it right away that help with accessibility. Everything I do has to be 508 compliant and not just because I feel it is the right thing to do, but I would with the

[jQuery] Re: a small accessibility rant

2008-02-14 Thread J Moore
Well, a pixel could be a tiny dot or it could be 5mm. So, really, isn't saying "font-size: 11px" proportional too? It sounds like your friend needs a better screen magnifier. Increasing just the font size in the browser is a hack. The one build into OS X (see 'universal access' in system prefs)