Re: Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center

2015-11-10 Thread Kanstantsin Shautsou
s/Workflow/.?/ is of course interesting idea, but i looks like it has the gulf between the two sides. - Freestyle has barrier between build steps and Publishers that constantly causes headache for plugin devs. I tried add SimpleBuildStep support and got other problems (see jenkins PRs) with gen

Re: Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center

2015-11-10 Thread Maciej Jaros
I think there are two problems with workflow and other script related plugins: 1. There is slim-to-none documentation on Jenkins APIs. There is no single authoritative place to learn about available interfaces with basic to advanced examples of their usage. Frankly, I haven't found a go

Re: Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center

2015-10-29 Thread Kohsuke Kawaguchi
Thanks for your feedback. The "you shouldn't worry" part is that the freestyle projects aren't going away, which Tyler & Stephen have already covered. The way I read your comment is that you see the quality as the most important issue and when you see me talking about workflow, it rubs you in a w

Re: Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center

2015-10-28 Thread R. Tyler Croy
(replies inline) On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, Slide wrote: > Honestly, I'm kind of getting tired of hearing about how workflow will > solve all of my problems and cancer. I'm glad that people like it, but > honestly, for a new user of Jenkins, workflow is so overkill. It's great > having an option for pe

Re: Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center

2015-10-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
My view is that there are three paths people will follow in using Jenkins: * the traditional path will predominantly use freestyle jobs as the engine of work * the modern path will predominantly use s/literate/new name/ jobs as the engine of work * the gradle-fanboys will predominantly use s/workf

RE: Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center

2015-10-28 Thread Ginga, Dick
[mailto:jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slide Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 2:28 PM To: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center Honestly, I'm kind of getting tired of hearing about how workflow will solve all

Re: Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center

2015-10-28 Thread Slide
Honestly, I'm kind of getting tired of hearing about how workflow will solve all of my problems and cancer. I'm glad that people like it, but honestly, for a new user of Jenkins, workflow is so overkill. It's great having an option for people who are build engineers and whatnot, but please don't ov

Jenkins 2.0 Proposal: Pipeline as code front and center

2015-10-28 Thread R. Tyler Croy
I've posted this to the blog which I'm very excited about but is also relevant to this list: Please see for comments/votes/etc - R. Tyler Croy --