Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Nicoya Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 8:25 AM Subject: RE: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article) > There was one passage in this article that really resonated with my personal > experience: > > So

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Jenn V.
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jenn V. wrote: > >One is a hacker - she does it because she loves it. She isn't paid a hell > >of a lot, but that's because she owns a startup company. She's happy, if > >overworked. > > Gee, that sounds somehow familiar :) (lau

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Jenn V.
Kelly Lynn Martin wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:12:24 -0500 (EST), srl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >Well, it might; in a society where money is power, if you promote > >computers as the way to get money, and girls learn to work with > >technology, then those females will advance in socia

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Jenn V.
Snarfblat wrote: > > I have a question, which I wonder about, but have no insight into due to > my > luck growing up in an excellent environment for fostering geekiness ;) > > Have any of you ever felt excluded or neglected in tech classes because > of your > gender? Yes. Yes! YES! *YES*! _*YE

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:12:24 -0500 (EST), srl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Well, it might; in a society where money is power, if you promote >computers as the way to get money, and girls learn to work with >technology, then those females will advance in social status. But girls aren't socialized

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jenn V. wrote: >One is a hacker - she does it because she loves it. She isn't paid a hell >of a lot, but that's because she owns a startup company. She's happy, if >overworked. Gee, that sounds somehow familiar :) >> On a completely different subject, what is a

RE: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Nicoya Helm
Snarblat wrote: | |Have any of you ever felt excluded or neglected in tech classes because |of your |gender? Yes - my intelligence or technical skills have both been openly questioned at times in male-dominated environments. It's _always_ been in situations where the men didn't know me - like in

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Laurel D Margulis
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Snarfblat wrote: > Have any of you ever felt excluded or neglected in tech classes because > of your gender? No, but I did have a teacher who strongly discouraged me from taking honors pre-calculus (who was female). I can't help but wonder if she did so because I was female.

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Snarfblat
Nicoya Helm wrote: > > I did get a lot of wonderful exposure at school, but thinking that > I would never get to take what I was learning and apply it outside of school > lead to a certain amount of apathy on my part - like "oh, well, I'll never > get my own computer, why bother learning this stu

RE: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Nicoya Helm
There was one passage in this article that really resonated with my personal experience: So by the time you get to high school, you've gone through the last 10 years not getting as much exposure as boys. Even if you haven't lost in