Re: [IPsec] Cookie logic results in failed authentication

2020-09-24 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Paul, > > This change will require both client and server to be updated to take an > > effect. > > IMHO in this case a better option would be as follows: negotiate an > > extension > > that will change AUTH payload input by zeroing out content of cookie. > > What would this actually achieve?

Re: [IPsec] Cookie logic results in failed authentication

2020-09-24 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Tero, > > > I think the long term solution is to do puzzles, as I do not think you > > > need to change puzzles secrets that often compared to the cookie > > > secrets. > > > > Puzzle are not solution for this problem. RFC 8019 suggests that > > is included in the cookie that allows the respon

Re: [IPsec] Cookie logic results in failed authentication

2020-09-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020, Valery Smyslov wrote: We have a server that is under a serious DDoS attack. It is sending back COOKIES and soon might have too many half open SA's to even accept any new connections with COOKIES. I fail to understand why server might have too many half open SA's with the p

Re: [IPsec] Cookie logic results in failed authentication

2020-09-24 Thread Tero Kivinen
Valery Smyslov writes: > Hi Tero, > > > > > I think the long term solution is to do puzzles, as I do not think you > > > > need to change puzzles secrets that often compared to the cookie > > > > secrets. > > > > > > Puzzle are not solution for this problem. RFC 8019 suggests that > > > is includ