Re: [IPsec] graveyard: deprecate->historic

2020-01-13 Thread Dan Harkins
On 1/12/20 10:35 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:01:39AM -0800, Dan Harkins wrote: On 12/23/19 10:46 AM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: Since we're in pedantic process mode... [snip] Perhaps something like "IKEv1 is no longer relevant for Internet systems" would work, though I su

Re: [IPsec] graveyard: deprecate->historic

2020-01-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020, Dan Harkins wrote: IKEv1 is done, it's over, it's dead. It's been like that for more than a decade. I think there is a big difference between "done developing it" and "done running it". A decade ago almost everything was IKEv1. Today, with the exception of Android and ten

Re: [IPsec] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-ipsecme-qr-ikev2-10: (with COMMENT)

2020-01-13 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 05:41:59PM +0300, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > > Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for > > draft-ietf-ipsecme-qr-ikev2-10: No Objection > > > > -- > > COMMENT: > > --

Re: [IPsec] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-ipsecme-qr-ikev2-10: (with COMMENT)

2020-01-13 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Ben, > On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 05:41:59PM +0300, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > > > > Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for > > > draft-ietf-ipsecme-qr-ikev2-10: No Objection > > > > > > -- > > > COMMENT: > > >

Re: [IPsec] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-ipsecme-qr-ikev2-10: (with COMMENT)

2020-01-13 Thread Roman Danyliw
Hi! > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 12:58 PM > To: Valery Smyslov > Cc: Roman Danyliw ; 'The IESG' ; > ipsec@ietf.org; ipsecme-cha...@ietf.org; david.walterm...@nist.gov; draft- > ietf-ipsecme-qr-ik...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [IPsec] Roman Dan

Re: [IPsec] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-ipsecme-qr-ikev2-10: (with COMMENT)

2020-01-13 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 09:46:43PM -0800, Barry Leiba via Datatracker wrote: > Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-ipsecme-qr-ikev2-10: No Objection > [...] > > I also find it interesting that Alexey thought you needed to add a normative > reference for “ASCII”,

Re: [IPsec] graveyard: deprecate->historic

2020-01-13 Thread Michael Richardson
Paul Wouters wrote: >> IKEv1 is done, it's over, it's dead. It's been like that for more than >> a decade. > I think there is a big difference between "done developing it" and > "done running it". A decade ago almost everything was IKEv1. Today, > with the exception of Androi