Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-06 Thread Yoav Nir
Inline with From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raj Singh Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 5:02 AM To: Yoav Nir Cc: ipsec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt Hi Yoav, Please find my in

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-06 Thread Raghunandan P (raghup)
Hi Yoav/Raj, I think its a good idea for the initiator to announce its capabilities about supporting just IKE SA without child SA. The responder will then act accordingly. Hence, this would make 4 scenarios: [IKE_SA_ONLY] is the mode that will tell whether the device supports bringing up IKE SA

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-06 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi Raghu I think in scenario (c) the initiator will propose a full child SA proposal, and the responder will accept the IKE SA and reply with a NO_PROPOSAL_CHOSEN for the child SA. From: Raghunandan P (raghup) [mailto:rag...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2

[IPsec] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ipsecme-roadmap-02.txt

2009-07-06 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Security Maintenance and Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : IP Security (IPsec) and Internet Key Exchange (IKE) Document Roadmap Author(s)

[IPsec] WG Last Calls in progress

2009-07-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. I am a bit concerned that the discussion about non-WG drafts is causing people to forget that we have two WG Last Calls in process. - draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-ipv6-config is in WG Last Call that will end soon. We have heard very little from anyone, even after we prodded the ipv6

Re: [IPsec] IKE's DH groups 19-21

2009-07-06 Thread Scott C Moonen
> - There are no security implications: the application of PRF in "SKEYSEED = > prf(Ni | Nr, g^ir)" takes care of extracting the entropy even if both X and > the dependent Y are included in g^ir. So either way is fine. Agreed, but as long as it's up in the air, the clincher for me is that few,

Re: [IPsec] IKE's DH groups 19-21

2009-07-06 Thread Jerome A. Solinas
I would like to call attention to the proposed revision of RFC 4753 at http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-solinas-rfc4753bis-00.txt This was an attempt to address the issues raised in this thread. Comments on this are welcomed. -- Jerome A. Solinas __

Re: [IPsec] IKE's DH groups 19-21

2009-07-06 Thread Russ Housley
I agree.  The Y coordinate should not be part of the calculation. Russ At 09:44 AM 7/6/2009, Scott C Moonen wrote: > - There are no security implications: the application of PRF in "SKEYSEED = > prf(Ni | Nr, g^ir)" takes care of extracting the entropy even if both X and > the dependent Y are inc

Re: [IPsec] IKE's DH groups 19-21, NIST, FIPS 140-2, etc.

2009-07-06 Thread Russ Housley
I think a fix is already in the works: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-solinas-rfc4753bis/ ___ IPsec mailing list IPsec@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec

[IPsec] New version of the roadmap draft available

2009-07-06 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Folks, We have published a new version of the roadmap draft. Pleae take a look at it and let us know if you have any comments or suggestions. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsecme-roadmap-02.txt Thanks Sheila and Suresh ___ IPse

Re: [IPsec] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-05

2009-07-06 Thread Jack Kohn
Support Jack On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > This is the beginning of a two-week WG Last Call, which will end July 18. > The target status for this document is Proposed Standard. The current > document is at > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibil