Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-03-05 Thread Yoav Nir
> On 3 Mar 2021, at 21:36, Dan Harkins wrote: > > > Faster and more secure seem to be compelling reasons. Those reasons are > probably more compelling for ESP than they are for IKE. Yes. If we were back in 2008 and figuring out which AEAD we should be using and they were both as unencumbe

Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-03-04 Thread Dan Harkins
to individual IETF WGs to define how to use that cipher mode in their particular protocols. That's where we come in.   regards,   Dan. Dan *From:* IPsec *On Behalf Of *Dan Harkins *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 2:37 PM *To:* ipsec@ietf.org

Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-03-04 Thread Dan Brown
to regain trust in OCB3 relative to OCB2? From: Dan Harkins Sent: Mar 4, 2021 5:29 PM To: Dan Brown ; ipsec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd) Hi Dan, On 3/4/21 11:04 AM, Dan Brown wrote: Deciding whet

Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-03-04 Thread Dan Harkins
n. Dan *From:* IPsec *On Behalf Of *Dan Harkins *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 2:37 PM *To:* ipsec@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)   Faster and more secure seem to be compelling reasons. Those reasons are probably more com

Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-03-04 Thread Dan Brown
problem. ​ Dan From: IPsec On Behalf Of Dan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 2:37 PM To: ipsec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd) Faster and more secure seem to be compelling reasons. Those reasons are probably

Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-03-04 Thread Tero Kivinen
Dan Harkins writes: > If an individual draft was to appear would the WG adopt it as a work item? Can't say what WG would decide, but I would support such work, and would be willing to start a process to adding such item to charter if WG feels that is something we want to do. -- kivi...@iki.fi _

Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-03-03 Thread Graham Bartlett
Hi Dan Glad you replied to this, OCB seems to be a hot topic at the moment. There seems to be some interest in this simply due to the potential speed increase. Would anyone know the potential % difference in speed compared to GCM ? In summary I think it should be discussed. cheers On Wed, Mar

Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-03-03 Thread Dan Harkins
  Faster and more secure seem to be compelling reasons. Those reasons are probably more compelling for ESP than they are for IKE.   The license for OCB always had some caveats like the code could not be used for military purposes which is something of a nightmare for a manufacturer of general

Re: [IPsec] [Cryptography] Direct public confirmation from Dr. Rogaway (fwd)

2021-02-28 Thread Yoav Nir
IIRC the license has allowed OCB to be used for TLS for several years. They haven’t taken it up. There are no AES-OCB ciphersuites inhttps://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-parameters.xml#tls-parameters-4 https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-parameters.xml#tls-paramet