Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-11-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017, Valery Smyslov wrote: RFC7427 allows peers to indicate hash algorithms they support, thus eliminating ambiguity in selecting a hash function for digital signature authentication. However, recent advances in cryptography lead to a situation when some signature algorithms hav

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-11-02 Thread Tero Kivinen
Valery Smyslov writes: > Hi Tero, > > how about: > > RFC7427 allows peers to indicate hash algorithms they support, thus > eliminating ambiguity in selecting a hash function for digital signature > authentication. However, recent advances in cryptography lead to > a situation when some signatur

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-11-02 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Tero, how about: RFC7427 allows peers to indicate hash algorithms they support, thus eliminating ambiguity in selecting a hash function for digital signature authentication. However, recent advances in cryptography lead to a situation when some signature algorithms have several signature fo

[IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-11-02 Thread Tero Kivinen
Sahana Prasad writes: > We could consider adding this item to the working charter : > > Explicitly negotiating different RSA versions (Specific case) : If you want it to be considered as charter item, please provide text suitable for charter. -- kivi...@iki.fi _

[IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-11-02 Thread Sahana Prasad
Hello, We could consider adding this item to the working charter : Explicitly negotiating different RSA versions (Specific case) : According to section 3.2 of rfc-8247 (was rfc-4307 bis) ,it is mentioned that : " When the Digital Signature authentication method is used with RSA signatur

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-29 Thread Hu, Jun (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Wouters [mailto:p...@nohats.ca] > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:28 PM > To: Hu, Jun (Nokia - US/Mountain View) > Cc: Valery Smyslov ; 'Tero Kivinen' ; > ipsec@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100 &g

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-29 Thread Daniel Migault
Hi, A few years ago, we worked on fail-over, load balancing.. [1] and would be happy to help. Yours, Daniel [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-plmrs-ipsecme-ipsec-ikev2-context-definition-01 On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 2:55 AM, Valery Smyslov wrote: > Hi, > > The problem with IKE Redirect is t

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-28 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi, The problem with IKE Redirect is that it requires IKE SA to be re-established from scratch. It consumes quite a lot of resources and takes noticeable amount of time. Moreover, in some cases it could require human interaction (in case of some EAP methods or if access to client's credentials r

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017, Hu, Jun (Nokia - US/Mountain View) wrote: [HJ] why RFC 5685 (Redirect Mechanism for the Internet Key Exchange Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2)) can't be used for this purpose? The problem with IKE Redirect is that it requires IKE SA to be re-established from scratch. It consumes

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-28 Thread Hu, Jun (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
> -Original Message- > From: Valery Smyslov [mailto:sva...@gmail.com] > > 1. Develop load sharing cluster solution for IKEv2/IPsec. The possible > > charter > > text: > > > > MOBIKE protocol [RFC4555] is used to move existing IKE/IPsec SA from > > one IP address to another. However, in MO

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-28 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Jun, 1. Develop load sharing cluster solution for IKEv2/IPsec. The possible charter text: MOBIKE protocol [RFC4555] is used to move existing IKE/IPsec SA from one IP address to another. However, in MOBIKE it is the initiator of the IKE SA (i.e. remote access client) that controls this proces

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-28 Thread Hu, Jun (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
> From: IPsec [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Valery Smyslov > 1. Develop load sharing cluster solution for IKEv2/IPsec. The possible charter > text: > > MOBIKE protocol [RFC4555] is used to move existing > IKE/IPsec SA from one IP address to another. However, > in M

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-28 Thread Daniel Migault
Hi Valery, Absolutely, Diet-IKE would be a nice item have in the charter as well, but this is a different item. Currently the work on compressing esp has two items: * draft-mglt-ipsecme-diet-esp defines how to esp. * draft-mglt-ipsecme-ikev2-diet-esp-extension defines how peers agree on using die

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-28 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Daniel, probably we need to consider Diet-IKE too? Aa companion for Diet-ESP. And what is draft-ipsecme-ikev2-extention? I cannot find such a draft... Regards, Valery. We support the proposals and will publish updated the documents regarding diet-esp and its associated IKEv2 extension. We bel

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, Tero Kivinen wrote: In last IETF we had people with items which we could add to charter, so I want those people wanting to add things to charter to send an email to the mailing list about what items they would like to propose to the charter, and preliminary charter text for

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-27 Thread shogunx
Don't forget to add this as a BoF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoUWHfh733Y :) X On Fri, 27 Oct 2017, Daniel Migault wrote: We support the proposals and will publish updated the documents regarding diet-esp and its associated IKEv2 extension. We believeĀ  draft-mglt-ipsecme-diet-esp and dra

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-27 Thread Daniel Migault
We support the proposals and will publish updated the documents regarding diet-esp and its associated IKEv2 extension. We believe draft-mglt-ipsecme-diet-esp and draft-ipsecme-ikev2-extention could be a good starting point. The proposed text for the charter could be: A growing number of use cases

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-27 Thread Tommy Pauly
+ 1 to these proposals I'd also like to see the work on drafts like DIET-ESP (draft-mglt-ipsecme-diet-esp-04) be incorporated. I think we'll have some growing use cases for IPsec in constrained networks, and as that develops, extensions and modifications to the protocol to make IKEv2 and ESP wo

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-27 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi, I think that the following items can be considered for the new charter. 1. Develop load sharing cluster solution for IKEv2/IPsec. The possible charter text: MOBIKE protocol [RFC4555] is used to move existing IKE/IPsec SA from one IP address to another. However, in MO

Re: [IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-26 Thread Yoav Nir
There used to be a special working group for multicast security. That has closed, so IPsecME is the natural home for this work: The Group Domain of Interpretation (GDOI - RFC 6407) is an IKEv1-based protocol for negotiating group keys for both multicast and unicast uses. The Working Group will

[IPsec] Agenda for IETF 100

2017-10-26 Thread Tero Kivinen
We will be meeting at Monday morning 09:30-11:00 for 1.5 hours. Our main agenda item will be the rechartering text, i.e., our charter will expire by the end of year, and we have most of our chartered work already completed, or almost finished, so we need to decide what new items (if any) we take to