Re: [IPsec] Fwd: Issue : Regarding EAP identity

2010-02-10 Thread Dan Harkins
Hi Yoav, First of all, IDi is not sent in response to an EAP Identity Request. Every NAS will, when it comes time to initiate EAP authentication, request an identity. That's how EAP works. The IKEv2 responder "knows" to send an EAP Identity Request because the IKEv2 initiator has indicated it

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: Issue : Regarding EAP identity

2010-02-10 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi. This is an interesting subject, and perhaps could be a good candidate for discussion at Anaheim. However, from the narrow perspective of a VPN vendor, I don't think this issue is very complicated: - In the first IKE_AUTH request the initiator provides *an* identity. This could be something

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: Issue : Regarding EAP identity

2010-02-10 Thread Dan Harkins
Hi Raj, On Wed, February 10, 2010 2:30 am, Raj Singh wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Alper Yegin > wrote: >> In other uses of AAA (such as with WiFi, WiMAX, 3GPP2, etc.) I know that >> the >> subscriber ID is hidden from the NAS. There are even specific methods >> deployed for that

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: Issue : Regarding EAP identity

2010-02-10 Thread Dan Harkins
Hi Alper, On Wed, February 10, 2010 2:14 am, Alper Yegin wrote: > Dan, > >> Hi Alper, >> >> In that case there is no standard way for the AAA server to inform >> the >> IKEv2 responder of this "policy" that it needs to enforce. So that >> sounds >> unworkable. > > I guess it can be specifie

[IPsec] yet more ikev2bis issues

2010-02-10 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi all. Again we have some more issues: Issue #147 - Allowing limited retransmission of one-way IKE messages Either in 2.1 or in 1.5 we should say something about allowing limited retransmission of the rare one-way IKE messages

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: Issue : Regarding EAP identity

2010-02-10 Thread Stephen Kent
At 12:14 PM +0200 2/10/10, Alper Yegin wrote: Dan, Hi Alper, In that case there is no standard way for the AAA server to inform the IKEv2 responder of this "policy" that it needs to enforce. So that sounds unworkable. I guess it can be specified. The IKEv2 responder already ha

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: Issue : Regarding EAP identity

2010-02-10 Thread Raj Singh
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: > Dan, > > > Hi Alper, > > > > In that case there is no standard way for the AAA server to inform > > the > > IKEv2 responder of this "policy" that it needs to enforce. So that > > sounds > > unworkable. > > I guess it can be specified. > >

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: Issue : Regarding EAP identity

2010-02-10 Thread Alper Yegin
Dan, > Hi Alper, > > In that case there is no standard way for the AAA server to inform > the > IKEv2 responder of this "policy" that it needs to enforce. So that > sounds > unworkable. I guess it can be specified. > The IKEv2 responder already has the mechanisms in place to enforce a > p