Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-08 Thread Yoav Nir
As it is, RFC 4306 mandates that if the problem is only with the CHILD SA payloads, then all the IKE SA payloads (including the AUTH and CFG) should be returned, followed by a child SA error (like NO_PROPOSAL_CHOSEN) which fails only the child SA. I agree that scenario (c) is not really solvabl

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-08 Thread Gaurav Poothia
Hello Yoav, Are you suggesting that in this scenario the initiator will not tear down the IKE SA on getting a CHILD SA specific error (NO_PROPOSAL_CHOSEN) for the AUTH exchange response ? Shouldn't the IKE SA also be torn down because while the error notify doesn't explicitly fail the AUTH there

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-08 Thread Raj Singh
Hi Yoav, So, we have 2 solutions: 1. New "Childless" payload with "critical" bit send by initiator Pros: i. Helps initiator and responder to have finer policy to allow/deny childless IKE_AUTH. ii. Responder will not process IKE_SA_INIT if Initiator wants only childless IKE_AUTH

[IPsec] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2bis-04.txt

2009-07-08 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Security Maintenance and Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : Internet Key Exchange Protocol: IKEv2 Author(s) : C. Kaufman, et al.