Re: [PHP-DEV] Debian Upgrade

2023-11-21 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Derick Rethans wrote: > On 20 November 2023 21:37:55 GMT, Rowan Tommins > wrote: > >On 15/11/2023 16:59, Derick Rethans wrote: > >> In the last few days, I have upgrade all our Digital Ocean droplets from > >> Debian 10 (or 9!) to 12. That also means they now run PHP 8.2. >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debian Upgrade

2023-11-21 Thread Rowan Tommins
On 21/11/2023 12:14, Derick Rethans wrote: I have fixed this now. It turned out to be a bug in *bugs.php.net*, which I had fixed yesterday... Wow, that was an unexpected chain of dependencies! Thanks for tracking it down. :) Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]

[PHP-DEV] PHP-8.1 open for bug fixes UNTIL 25 Nov

2023-11-21 Thread Ben Ramsey
NB: this is a reply to the other thread, with the subject changed. On 11/10/23 13:57, Ben Ramsey wrote: Hi, all! According to the supported versions page[^1] (and our release process documentation), active support for PHP-8.1 ends on 25 Nov 2023. Since our release cycle has a release falling

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Resource to object conversion

2023-11-21 Thread Máté Kocsis
Hi Derick, Jakub, Phiip > Did you do an analyses as to how much either of these changes could break > anything? I updated the RFC with some impact analysis. The numbers support my hypothesis that the conversion of auxiliary stream resources would cause hardly any BC break - at least in case of

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC Proposal - static modifier for classes

2023-11-21 Thread David Gebler
I wouldn't support this, personally. I'm not a voter but I mean just in terms of gauging community feel about the proposal, without unnecessarily repeating what's already been said I just want to register that I'm in agreement with Larry and Kamil's comments. What static classes would achieve goes

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP-8.1 open for bug fixes UNTIL 25 Nov

2023-11-21 Thread G. P. B.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 at 21:10, Ben Ramsey wrote: > We’ve discussed this among release managers, and I’m updating this > thread to clarify that I was mistaken about what the dates for supported > versions mean. These are the dates up until we will accept patches to a > version branch. So, for examp

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP-8.1 open for bug fixes UNTIL 25 Nov

2023-11-21 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On Nov 21, 2023, at 18:22, G. P. B. wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 at 21:10, Ben Ramsey > wrote: >> We’ve discussed this among release managers, and I’m updating this >> thread to clarify that I was mistaken about what the dates for supported >> versions mean. These ar

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Resource to object conversion

2023-11-21 Thread G. P. B.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 16:13, Jakub Zelenka wrote: > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 4:48 PM Máté Kocsis > wrote: > > > Hi Internals, > > > > Following my straw poll about the Process resource name, I would like to > > present an RFC which clarifies the rough timeline and the BC promises of > > the "res

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Resource to object conversion

2023-11-21 Thread Aleksander Machniak
On 12.11.2023 17:47, Máté Kocsis wrote: Link: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/resource_to_object_conversion Is "Primary stream-related resources" section about file pointers? I'd like it to be more clear. Maybe it should even list all functions that will be impacted. I don't see an impact analysis f

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Resource to object conversion

2023-11-21 Thread Mike Schinkel
> > On Nov 21, 2023 at 11:33 PM, mailto:george.bany...@gmail.com)> > wrote: > > > > What is the point of a major release if we cannot even do such a BC break? > We don't even know when PHP 9.0 is going to happen yet. > > I have been using Go for about four years n