Hey Tim,
On Thu, 11 May 2023, 18:37 Tim Düsterhus, wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm now opening discussion for the RFC "Marking overridden methods
> (#[\Override])":
>
>
>
> RFC: Marking overridden methods (#[\Override])
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/marking_overriden_methods
>
> Proof of concept implement
> Which begs the question of a PHP Package for PHP. Some benefits:
>
> - Written in PHP, it will allow a much wider pool of contributors than the
scarce pool of C developers contributing to PHP source code.
Aren't this what frameworks are for (Laravel / Yii / Symfony / Zend etc)?
Or PEAR?
Like th
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 8:55 AM Reinis Rozitis wrote:
> > Which begs the question of a PHP Package for PHP. Some benefits:
> >
> > - Written in PHP, it will allow a much wider pool of contributors than
> the
> scarce pool of C developers contributing to PHP source code.
>
> Aren't this what frame
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 3:07 AM Deleu wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> Reading through https://externals.io/message/120323#120326 and
> https://externals.io/message/120323#120332, it reminded me of a few times
> I've seen similar debates on internals about "why not do this on userland?"
> and the consensus
On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 14:12, Deleu wrote:
> > Or PEAR?
> > Like that particular path_join() request is exactly
> >
> https://pear.php.net/package/File_Util/docs/latest/File/File_Util/File_Util.html#methodbuildPath
>
>
> I have worked with PHP for 14 years now and I know nothing about PEAR. It
>
> I have worked with PHP for 14 years now and I know nothing about PEAR. It
> either says something about me or about PEAR.
Then the next logical question would be do you know what PECL is? :)
But to be short my point is - before attempting to get new function(ality) in
core it (seems to me)
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:27 AM Rowan Tommins
wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 14:12, Deleu wrote:
>
> > > Or PEAR?
> > > Like that particular path_join() request is exactly
> > >
> >
> https://pear.php.net/package/File_Util/docs/latest/File/File_Util/File_Util.html#methodbuildPath
> >
> >
> > I
>
> The work to get started seems to be about:
>
> 1- Getting an RFC to approve this idea itself
> 2- Getting a repository to host the PHP package code.
> 3- CI/CD
> 4- Release Management
> 5- Versioning Strategy
> 6- Package naming convention
> 7- Distribution strategy (single package vs multiple
An extension of this, Looking on packagist. The namespace PHP is reserved,
in collaboration with PHP, Composer and Packagist. Official PHP packages
can use the /PHP/... root namespace.
And can be published on packagist under the PHP namespace
https://packagist.org/packages/php/ -- Note this URL CU
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM Reinis Rozitis wrote:
> > I have worked with PHP for 14 years now and I know nothing about PEAR.
> It either says something about me or about PEAR.
>
> Then the next logical question would be do you know what PECL is? :)
>
> But to be short my point is - before
Hi
On 5/18/23 18:13, tag Knife wrote:
An extension of this, Looking on packagist. The namespace PHP is reserved,
in collaboration with PHP, Composer and Packagist. Official PHP packages
can use the /PHP/... root namespace.
And can be published on packagist under the PHP namespace
To my underst
On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 16:27, Deleu wrote:
Monolog is a great example of what PHP is missing - a single library for a
> purpose. I have never worked with any other library besides Monolog and I
> never worked on any project which didn't have it installed. Perhaps my
> bubble might be a limiting f
On Thu, May 18, 2023, at 5:34 PM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
> I actually wonder if some things in core should be removed to encourage
> userland replacements - ext/soap, for instance, and some of the data
> structures in ext/spl.
>
> IMHO, the things that would benefit from being written in PHP then b
Hi Marco
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 7:35 PM Rowan Tommins wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 16:27, Deleu wrote:
>
> Monolog is a great example of what PHP is missing - a single library for a
> > purpose. I have never worked with any other library besides Monolog and I
> > never worked on any projec
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 2:35 PM Rowan Tommins
wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 16:27, Deleu wrote:
>
> Monolog is a great example of what PHP is missing - a single library for a
> > purpose. I have never worked with any other library besides Monolog and I
> > never worked on any project which did
Hi Internals!
Looking for counsel from the PHP maintainers here regarding the upgrade
path from PHP v7 to v8.
There is a subset of backward incompatible language changes that are
remarkably tricky to track back into a codebase through manual code
inspection, automated testing, or static anal
On 18 May 2023 20:15:44 BST, Deleu wrote:
> I meant exactly the opposite. Monolog is an example of what PHP (is missing
> === doesn't have enough of). There's hardly any reason to re-release it
> under the PHP umbrella. Monolog already won the log battle. I can't say the
> same for virtually anyth
> On May 18, 2023, at 10:27 AM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
>
> On the one hand, PEAR was a single "baseline" that everyone expected; on
> the other hand, packages tended to be slow to adapt to new needs and
> fashions, and inflexible to different environments. So instead, people
> moved to:
>
> - Fram
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 6:56 PM Rowan Tommins
wrote:
> On 18 May 2023 20:15:44 BST, Deleu wrote:
> > I meant exactly the opposite. Monolog is an example of what PHP (is
> missing
> > === doesn't have enough of). There's hardly any reason to re-release it
> > under the PHP umbrella. Monolog alrea
Hi Alan,
regarding "String to Number Comparison", you can cast the value to int to get
the old behaviour:
php -r "var_dump(0 == (int) '0');"
php -r "var_dump(0 == (int) '0.0');"
php -r "var_dump(0 == (int) 'foo');"
php -r "var_dump(0 == (int) '');"
php -r "var_dump(42 == (int) ' 42');"
php -r "v
On 5/18/23 9:00 PM, Deleu wrote:
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 6:56 PM Rowan Tommins
wrote:
On 18 May 2023 20:15:44 BST, Deleu wrote:
I meant exactly the opposite. Monolog is an example of what PHP (is
missing
=== doesn't have enough of). There's hardly any reason to re-release it
under the PH
> On May 18, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 16:27, Deleu wrote:
>> Monolog is a great example of what PHP is missing - a single library for a
>> purpose. I have never worked with any other library besides Monolog and I
>> never worked on any project which didn't h
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