Re: [PHP-DEV] Experimental features

2022-10-10 Thread David Gebler
My two cents... Why can't "common users" install a PECL extension? It's not a difficult, obscure or undocumented process. I can accept the reasoning > Apply a PECL strategy to try experimental features might not be the convenient way always, for example, if we create a new ... sensitive ini sett

Re: [PHP-DEV] Experimental features

2022-10-10 Thread David Rodrigues
The idea is that the experimental features are exclusively something that the PHP team has voted for (approved) and that will be part of the language. Users can choose to install PECL, but it is not the same, because it depends on other users (who can make use of this code) having the notion that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Experimental features

2022-10-10 Thread Mike Schinkel
> On Oct 10, 2022, at 6:20 PM, David Gebler wrote: > > My two cents... > > Why can't "common users" install a PECL extension? It's not a difficult, > obscure or undocumented process. A lot of developers (most?) who build PHP applications run them in shared-hosted or managed hosted servers wher

Re: [PHP-DEV] Experimental features

2022-10-10 Thread David Gebler
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 12:05 AM David Rodrigues wrote: > The idea is that the experimental features are exclusively something that > the PHP team has voted for (approved) and that will be part of the language. > So they're not experimental features, they're accepted RFCs, maybe with a lower vot

Re: [PHP-DEV] Experimental features

2022-10-10 Thread Jordan LeDoux
On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 5:05 PM David Gebler wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 12:05 AM David Rodrigues > wrote: > > > The idea is that the experimental features are exclusively something that > > the PHP team has voted for (approved) and that will be part of the > language. > > > > So they're no

Re: [PHP-DEV] Experimental features

2022-10-10 Thread MKS Archive
> On Oct 10, 2022, at 8:04 PM, David Gebler wrote: > > This is what's bothering me. Either these "experimental" features have > passed RFC and will be part of the language, as you've said above, or > they're actually experimental i.e. not finalized and implementing behaviour > and syntax which