Re: [PHP-DEV] Capturing reasons for votes for historical sake?

On 20/03/2020 04:36, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: As I noted, the default reason is always "the author of the RFC failed to convince this change is necessary or beneficial". If somebody tries to sell you something, you may have some specific flaws to point out and may be even be fixed, or you may no

[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Server-Side Request and Response Objects (v2)

Hi all, I have opened the vote on Server-Side Request and Response Objects at . The voting period will close two weeks from today on Fri 03 Apr 2020. -- Paul M. Jones pmjo...@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP

[PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] Server-Side Request and Response Objects (v2)

On 20/03/2020 13:31, Paul M. Jones wrote: I have opened the vote on Server-Side Request and Response Objects at . To practice what I preach: I have voted against, as I don't believe this proposal offers anything which isn't already possible using muc

[PHP-DEV] An incubation period for RFCs? [repost as own thread]

(I already send the mesage after the “”, but unfortunately it showed up as part of the “Capturing reasons for votes for historical sake?” thread, so I'm re-posting it as a “new” message in the hopes it'll be its own thread. Therefore, please reply to this message, not the previous copy of i

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] Server-Side Request and Response Objects (v2)

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 15:35 Mark Randall wrote: > On 20/03/2020 13:31, Paul M. Jones wrote: > > I have opened the vote on Server-Side Request and Response Objects at < > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/request_response>. > To practice what I preach: > > I have voted against, as I don't believe this prop

[PHP-DEV] Re: An incubation period for RFCs? [repost as own thread]

On 20/03/2020 14:38, Andrea Faulds wrote: How does the list feel about this idea? From what I have read, userland testing of even RC versions seems to be as infrequent as to practically be non-existent outside the major frameworks, having a usable number of people playing about with it when

Re: [PHP-DEV] An incubation period for RFCs? [repost as own thread]

> On Mar 20, 2020, at 10:03, Mark Randall wrote: > > On 20/03/2020 14:38, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> How does the list feel about this idea? > > From what I have read, userland testing of even RC versions seems to be as > infrequent as to practically be non-existent outside the major frameworks,

Re: [PHP-DEV] An incubation period for RFCs? [repost as own thread]

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 15:48, Ben Ramsey wrote: > > To encourage userland testing of RC versions, I think it would be helpful > to maintain Docker images of RCs. > > I’m not suggesting the internals group take this on themselves. IMO, this > is something that the community can take on and offer >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Server-Side Request and Response Objects (v2)

> On Mar 20, 2020, at 08:31, Paul M. Jones wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have opened the vote on Server-Side Request and Response Objects at > . > > The voting period will close two weeks from today on Fri 03 Apr 2020. Paul, I apologize for not speaking

Re: [PHP-DEV] An incubation period for RFCs? [repost as own thread]

> On Mar 20, 2020, at 11:30, Rowan Tommins wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 15:48, Ben Ramsey wrote: > >> >> To encourage userland testing of RC versions, I think it would be helpful >> to maintain Docker images of RCs. >> >> I’m not suggesting the internals group take this on themselves. IM

Re: [PHP-DEV] An incubation period for RFCs? [repost as own thread]

> On Mar 20, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Ben Ramsey wrote: > >> On Mar 20, 2020, at 11:30, Rowan Tommins wrote: >> >> On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 15:48, Ben Ramsey wrote: >> >>> >>> To encourage userland testing of RC versions, I think it would be helpful >>> to maintain Docker images of RCs. >>> >>> I’m

Re: [PHP-DEV] An incubation period for RFCs? [repost as own thread]

On 20/03/2020 15:47, Ben Ramsey wrote: I’m not suggesting the internals group take this on themselves. IMO, this is something that the community can take on and offer, and it’s something that needs to be done before we can expect significant testing of RCs. We could fully automate this fairly

[PHP-DEV] RFC karma

Hi! I need RFC karma to create the RFC I mentioned in the internals list yesterday: https://externals.io/message/109156 Can somebody give me those permissions? Thank you!

Re: [PHP-DEV] An incubation period for RFCs? [repost as own thread]

> On Mar 20, 2020, at 13:00, Mark Randall wrote: > > On 20/03/2020 15:47, Ben Ramsey wrote: >> I’m not suggesting the internals group take this on themselves. IMO, this is >> something that the community can take on and offer, and it’s something that >> needs to be done before we can expect sig

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Voting opens for str_starts_with and ends_with functions

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:54 AM Nikita Popov wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 4:13 AM wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > After 15 days of discussion I have opened up voting on the following RFC > > (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/add_str_begin_and_end_functions) . > > > > You can access the voting page

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Compact Object Property Assignment

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:27 AM Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > Using Object Initializer enforce that if a class is instantiated with the > Object Initializer, > at the end of the instantiation and properties initialization, all visible > properties > (depends on initialization scope) are initiali