[PHP-DEV] re2c --no-generation-date

2012-12-04 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Any objections to applying the attached patch? This would suppress date output in the generated output so that (hopefully) files generated by re2c are not changed during the build just because of the date. >From 21f8149129609594a01bb08c77088effbe422aa7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Sebastian Be

[PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Lester Caine
Not sure if the date is significant, but just received notification that 1&1 will drop support for PHP4 and PHP5.2 from April 1, 2013 - yes PHP4 is still available as their default! The move is to PHP5.4, but the interesting thing is that they are calling it PHP6 simply to isolate it from PHP5

Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Sherif Ramadan
What a great way to confuse people. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Not sure if the date is significant, but just received notification that > 1&1 will drop support for PHP4 and PHP5.2 from April 1, 2013 - yes PHP4 is > still available as their default! > > The move is to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Leigh
On 4 December 2012 09:04, Lester Caine wrote: > April 1, 2013 > > The date is somewhat suspicious ;)

Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 09:04 +, Lester Caine wrote: > > > The move is to PHP5.4, but the interesting thing is that they are > calling it > PHP6 simply to isolate it from PHP5.2 > http://faq.1and1.co.uk/scripting/php/5.html well, the actual reason is that they offered the old PHP 6 before as

[PHP-DEV] date/strtotime poor performance - further digging (v 5.4.9)

2012-12-04 Thread Paul Taulborg
So, I've been going through the internals of date() and related, trying to isolate where some poor performance is, to try and find ways to optimize it. In doing so, I came across this: On line 863 of ext/date/php_date.c is this code: } else if (*DATEG(default_timezone) && timelib_timezone_

Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Lester, are you seriously suggesting we coddle providers who either [a] Willfully misrepresent the PHP versioning system, showing they are utterly tuned out of the PHP support community? or [b] Play unfunny practical jokes on their users and/or troll this very list? If anything, their behavio

Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Lester Caine
Sanford Whiteman wrote: Lester, are you seriously suggesting we coddle providers who either [a] Willfully misrepresent the PHP versioning system, showing they are utterly tuned out of the PHP support community? Well they are only one of the ISP's who have been posting PHP6 as their next suppo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Levi Morrison
> I'm lead to believe that the date was chosen simply because they do consider > the situation a bit of a joke ... Speaking as a current and long-time customer of 1and1 hosting, I do believe that their business situation is a bit of a joke. I know this is not a list to talk about various hosting p

Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Levi Morrison wrote: > > I'm lead to believe that the date was chosen simply because they do > consider > > the situation a bit of a joke ... > > Speaking as a current and long-time customer of 1and1 hosting, I do > believe that their business situation is a bit of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Things move slowly in the real world ;)

2012-12-04 Thread Adam Harvey
On 5 December 2012 08:26, Kris Craig wrote: > Seriously, though, 1and1 is a joke. That's not exactly breaking news. If > it really bugs us that much, we could always put up a statement on the > website rebuking their misrepresentation of our version numbering and leak > it to a few tech blogs.

Re: [PHP-DEV] re2c --no-generation-date

2012-12-04 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > Any objections to applying the attached patch? This would suppress date > output in the generated output so that (hopefully) files generated by > re2c are not changed during the build just because of the date. I think it is a great idea. If we ever need a date for checked in files, we ha

Re: [PHP-DEV] re2c --no-generation-date

2012-12-04 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
On 12/05/2012 06:06 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> Any objections to applying the attached patch? This would suppress date >> output in the generated output so that (hopefully) files generated by >> re2c are not changed during the build just because of the date. > > I think it is a great idea. If