[PHP-DEV] removing some cruft

2011-05-28 Thread marius adrian popa
Removing some cruft from php I'm thinking that the logo should be optional --disable-logo PHPE9568F34-D428-11d2-A769-00AA001ACF42 http://www.phpsadness.com/ via combinator http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2591845 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] removing some cruft

2011-05-28 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
2011/5/28 marius adrian popa : > Removing some cruft from php > I'm thinking that the logo should be optional --disable-logo > PHPE9568F34-D428-11d2-A769-00AA001ACF42 expose_php = Off? -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To un

Re: [PHP-DEV] removing some cruft

2011-05-28 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 06:05, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > > expose_php = Off? I think what he and others mean is that they want the option to leave the logo, credits, et cetera, completely out of the build at compile time. -- Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP I

[PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Arnold Hesnod
I sent this message to the php-general list, but haven't gotten any replies. Looking at the archives for the two lists, I realized that I'm probably much more likely to get informed responses from this list than the general list: Although I've been mostly using Java and Ruby in my professional

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Alex Makarov
From my experience with Java: * It's not that easy to properly configure JVM for production use. * If you'll do it wrong and there is a memory leak it can hang the server. At least it was the case when using SOLR. I sent this message to the php-general list, but haven't gotten any r

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Tom Samplonius
> I sent this message to the php-general list, but haven't gotten any > replies. Looking at the archives for the two lists, I realized that > I'm probably much more likely to get informed responses from this > list than the general list: Probably a Caucho list would better. php-internals is pr

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Gustavo Lopes
On Sat, 28 May 2011 18:46:52 +0100, Arnold Hesnod wrote: I sent this message to the php-general list, but haven't gotten any replies. Looking at the archives for the two lists, I realized that I'm probably much more likely to get informed responses from this list than the general list:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! annotations have been a central part of the last 100 or so JSRs and I've only seen one or two informed objections, it's fairly obvious the list has had very little experience with Java. Maybe having experience with Java is exactly the reason why some people are reluctant to make PHP more

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Martin Scotta
Martin Scotta On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > annotations have been a central part of the last 100 or so JSRs and I've >> only seen one or two informed objections, it's fairly obvious the list has >> had very little experience with Java. >> > > Maybe having e

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Paul Reinheimer
Hi, >  And so far as PHP6... a lot of the features that were supposed to be in PHP6 > actually ended up in 5.3.  So rather than "canceled", "no longer necessary" > might be a better description of what happened to PHP6. With the loss of Unicode (which now lacks even an implementation plan) "no

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Gwynne Raskind
On May 28, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Martin Scotta wrote: > I really dont like to move away from PHP, but compared to others... it's > just a template language with steroids. > > and please dont get me wrong, I love PHP, it's is still my favourite but... This has been exactly my experience when trying

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! - I immediately had to write an extension to give me access to several missing APIs (clock_gettime() and a number of ncurses functions not implemented in the ncurses extension). So the problem with PHP is that it doesn't include support for any possible API out of the box. While all other

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: What's up with Quercus?

2011-05-28 Thread Pascal COURTOIS
Le 29/05/2011 07:05, Gwynne Raskind a écrit : > On May 28, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Martin Scotta wrote: >> I really dont like to move away from PHP, but compared to others... it's >> just a template language with steroids. >> >> and please dont get me wrong, I love PHP, it's is still my favourite but...