Re: [PHP-DEV] Traits and Properties

2011-01-06 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Jonathan: Sorry, was not able to get back to those discussions earlier. On 22 Dec 2010, at 16:39, Jonathan Bond-Caron wrote: > There are two remaining questions I have: > 1) How do traits affect the reflection API? Johannes implemented some features in the Reflection API. However, they are

Re: [PHP-DEV] Traits and Properties

2011-01-06 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Larry: On 21 Dec 2010, at 03:24, Larry Garfield wrote: > I don't believe the RFC mentions how those resolve in case of collision, > though. If two traits define the same abstract method, does that cause a > collision that needs manual resolution or can the using class just define it > once

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: about class names as values

2011-01-06 Thread Martin Scotta
Yes, my intention was to only add a magic constant with the class, similar to this namespace Bar { class Foo { const KLASS = __CLASS__; } } namespace Buzz { use \Bar\Foo as BazFoo; class Bar extends BazFoo { const KLASS = __CLASS__; } $bar = new Bar; $baz = new BazFoo;

Re: [PHP-DEV] Traits and Properties

2011-01-06 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 14:38 +0100, Stefan Marr wrote: > > On of those things is that you actually use ReflectionClass to reflect > on a trait. > That is really an implementation detail, and should be changed to not > confuse anyone on a conceptional level. We should not expose that kind > of engin

RE: [PHP-DEV] Extensions to traits

2011-01-06 Thread Jonathan Bond-Caron
On Sun Jan 2 07:16 AM, Ben Schmidt wrote: > I would also like to propose some extensions to the functionality as > currently described, which I think could potentially add tremendous > power to the mechanism, with relatively little additional conceptual > complexity and implementation effort. I'

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extensions to traits

2011-01-06 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Ben: On 02 Jan 2011, at 13:16, Ben Schmidt wrote: > While it's still in the pre-release stage, though, I would like to put > in a vote for the assignment syntax: I think it is a lot easier to read > and understand than the 'insteadof' syntax. The reason to go with insteadof is that the assignm

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extensions to traits

2011-01-06 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Ben: Here the second part, on your extension proposal. On 02 Jan 2011, at 13:16, Ben Schmidt wrote: > Extension > - - - - - > > I suggest these two problems can be simply solved by introducing two > additional uses of the trait keyword: as a scoping keyword and an access > specifier. > > As

Re: [PHP-DEV] Extensions to traits

2011-01-06 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Ben: On 02 Jan 2011, at 13:16, Ben Schmidt wrote: > Proposal > > > I would therefore like to propose an extension backwards-compatible with > the current trait implementation. I will, however, extend the assignment > syntax, rather than the 'insteadof' syntax, as I find that clearer,