On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> - In PHP 5, object storage is resources done right. I don't think
>> >> we should be using the resource infrastructure for this
>> >> implementation and would prefer to use the object one. It's better.
>> >> I suggest to
Hi Christian,
I took a look into your patch and found it too difficult.
So I implemented another patch (attached) which is based on your ideas.
>From user's level of view it does exactly the same except for "lexical"
variables definition. I don't use any new reserver word because every
new reserv
I'd prefer a run-tests.php option that sets the timeout limit in seconds.
Nice idea, but I'm not sure it's achievable under CLI.
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Hi Travis,
All it does is adds another option, -x, to run-tests.php. This sets an
environmental variable which can then be checked for in the SKIPIF
section of very slow-running tests.
How do you specify that "test A is slow"? Is there a certain skipif
message you include, or...?
Yep.
Hey Stas,
+$environment['EXEMPT_SLOW_TESTS'] = 1;
Maybe "SKIP_SLOW_TESTS"? If it's checked in skip section... :)
Otherwise - good idea!
You can tell I'm reading my mail backwards today...
I used 'EXEMPT' because the option is 'x' and I wanted it to be easy to
remember.
I'd prefer a run-tests.php option that sets the timeout limit in seconds.
Nice idea, but I'm not sure it's achievable under CLI.
Yes, it is. Check the system_with_timeout() function in the run-tests.php
script.
There you've the timeout hardcoded ('$leak_check ? 300 : 60'). You would
just nee
Yes, it is. Check the system_with_timeout() function in the run-tests.php
script.
There you've the timeout hardcoded ('$leak_check ? 300 : 60'). You would
just need to make it configurable by some environment var.
I already tried hard-coding both tv_sec and tv_usec to 0 and it makes no
diffe
Just trying to work out why my footprint was bigger than I expected running
the windows 5.3.0-dev and I've got mysqlnd installed when I don't need it. How
do I get rid of it or am I going have to compile my own builds in future?
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Lester Caine wrote:
> Just trying to work out why my footprint was bigger than I expected
> running the windows 5.3.0-dev and I've got mysqlnd installed when I
> don't need it. How do I get rid of it or am I going have to compile my
> own builds in future?
>
It's on by default on windows, so you'l
Elizabeth M Smith wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
Just trying to work out why my footprint was bigger than I expected
running the windows 5.3.0-dev and I've got mysqlnd installed when I
don't need it. How do I get rid of it or am I going have to compile my
own builds in future?
It's on by default o
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Elizabeth M Smith wrote:
>>
>> Lester Caine wrote:
>>>
>>> Just trying to work out why my footprint was bigger than I expected
>>> running the windows 5.3.0-dev and I've got mysqlnd installed when I
>>> don't need it. How do
Any particular reason why it's been changed - I can't see anything I need
it for.
The other million or so who do.
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Pierre Joye wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Elizabeth M Smith wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
Just trying to work out why my footprint was bigger than I expected
running the windows 5.3.0-dev and I've got mysqlnd installed when I
don't need it. How do
What about the addition of overloading for PHP 6?
I am not totally up to date on the developments of the parameter type
hints. I briefly read the meeting minutes for PHP 6.
What about with the type hints we have now?
class moo
{
public static function foo(FooClass $FooVar)
{
//
On Jun 19, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Steph Fox wrote:
Yes, it is. Check the system_with_timeout() function in the run-
tests.php script.
There you've the timeout hardcoded ('$leak_check ? 300 : 60'). You
would just need to make it configurable by some environment var.
I already tried hard-coding b
Come on. Mysql has been always been enabled by default.
*NO* Mysql was REMOVED as the default in 5.0.0 after lots of requests from
those of us who don't want it loaded. There was a democratic decision to
remove it.
*NO*. MySQL was no longer bundled from 5.0.0 because MySQL AB went GPL on
Yes, it is. Check the system_with_timeout() function in the run-tests.php
script.
There you've the timeout hardcoded ('$leak_check ? 300 : 60'). You would
just need to make it configurable by some environment var.
I already tried hard-coding both tv_sec and tv_usec to 0 and it makes no
differe
I can add this to PHPT - it uses a timeout based on reading the open
proc.
That's what the current run-tests does too. The problem is it isn't reliable
cross-platform - we don't have any control over the select() function used
by stream_select() except under Windows, where it doesn't work (I
uhm, file a bug report then. It was supposed to work..
There are some open on this already.
Also - Windows is the only environment where we actually have control over
whether it works or not. Everything else relies on a system call.
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Steph Fox wrote:
Come on. Mysql has been always been enabled by default.
*NO* Mysql was REMOVED as the default in 5.0.0 after lots of requests
from those of us who don't want it loaded. There was a democratic
decision to remove it.
*NO*. MySQL was no longer bundled from 5.0.0 because MySQ
On Jun 19, 2008, at 8:26 AM, Steph Fox wrote:
I can add this to PHPT - it uses a timeout based on reading the
open proc.
That's what the current run-tests does too. The problem is it isn't
reliable cross-platform - we don't have any control over the select
() function used by stream_select(
Hi Dmitry,
As a lowly userspace developer, the | syntax is a bit confusing. If I
see $x, $y | $a, $b, $c, my brain parses it as ($a, ($y | $a), $b, $c),
since , has lower precedence than |. I'd think "syntax error", then
"logical OR", but never "this refers to the variables I want imported to
There's nothing wrong with that approach. I'm trying to find something
that addresses the problem (i.e., "how can I not run tests that are going
to take a long time to run?"), while providing enough flexibility to
answer other problems (i.e., "how can I skip X tests that I don't care
abo
MySQL was replaced by SQLite as the default database in the very first
release of 5.0.0 http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.0.0b1
Yes.
The PRIMARY reason was because of the number of non MySQL users who
requested that.
No. Will you please stop trying to rewrite history. There was an outcr
Steph Fox wrote:
> So what was wrong with the simple skipif and env var approach again?
The problem is it only skips the test!
I'd like my slow tests to run (this generally occurs when I use a very
remote DB). I end up manually increasing the timeout in stream_select()
in run-tests.sh. This
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pierre Joye wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Elizabeth M Smith wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
>
> Just trying to work out why my footprint was bigger
I don't like "lexical" keyword, because it can be used anywhere in
function (e.q. inside "if" or loop statement), however lexical variables
must be the part of lambda function definition.
We can think about some better syntax, like
function ($x, $y) ($a, $b, $c) {};
function ($x, $y) [$a, $b,
Hi Chris,
If we make the timeout value adjustable, you can set it to a low value
so your slow tests are quickly aborted, and I can set it to a high
value so my tests are run.
It's easily enough done, it's just a separate issue.
I can easily put a workaround in the Windows version of select.c
I was not clear. Mysql has been (and still is) always enabled and
available by default in our Windows binaries.
Not now, and not for a very long time.
Agreed, but I do not maintain mysqlnd (and not willing to :), can you
open a bug about that please?
It's not a bug. It was a democratic dec
Steph Fox wrote:
MySQL was replaced by SQLite as the default database in the very first
release of 5.0.0 http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.0.0b1
Yes.
The PRIMARY reason was because of the number of non MySQL users who
requested that.
No. Will you please stop trying to rewrite history.
On Jun 19, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Steph Fox wrote:
There's nothing wrong with that approach. I'm trying to find
something that addresses the problem (i.e., "how can I not run
tests that are going to take a long time to run?"), while
providing enough flexibility to answer other problems (i.
Steph Fox wrote:
I was not clear. Mysql has been (and still is) always enabled and
available by default in our Windows binaries.
Not now, and not for a very long time.
Agreed, but I do not maintain mysqlnd (and not willing to :), can you
open a bug about that please?
It's not a bug. It wa
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Dmitry Stogov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't like "lexical" keyword, because it can be used anywhere in function
> (e.q. inside "if" or loop statement), however lexical variables must be the
That does sound wtf-y, indeed. Is that allowed with the global
keyw
In fact I can see YOU commenting that it should not be enabled by default!
But that was 2007 - I see no agreement that it should be later ?
mysqlnd needs to be built-in statically.
I will be opening a bug - if only to flag the need for a switch to disable
it if it's not required.
We have t
Dmitry Stogov escreveu:
I don't like "lexical" keyword, because it can be used anywhere in
function (e.q. inside "if" or loop statement), however lexical variables
must be the part of lambda function definition.
I agree with Dmitry: Lexical variables belong to lambda function
definition. It
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Steph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I was not clear. Mysql has been (and still is) always enabled and
>> available by default in our Windows binaries.
>
> Not now, and not for a very long time.
Can we stop with the nitpicking? mysql has been available.
>> Ag
Steph Fox wrote:
So 'skipif' suits my needs better, but not yours. I'll add both.
Thanks Steph.
Chris
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I was not clear. Mysql has been (and still is) always enabled and
available by default in our Windows binaries.
Not now, and not for a very long time.
Can we stop with the nitpicking? mysql has been available.
To paraphrase Meatloaf, one out of three ain't bad :)
Agreed, but I do not mai
What if by type hint a parameter, php automatically tries to convert the
argument into that type and throws an exception ONLY if it couldn't be done?
for example:
function concat(string $a, string $b)
{
return $a.$b;
}
I can do:
concat(1,'1');
concat(2.5,' pigs');
concat(new ConvertibleToS
I'm developing a PHP framework and had the same issue sometimes... I think
it was already discussed in the list, did you searched the archives?
Saulo
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Tinsley, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> What about the addition of overloading for PHP 6?
>
> I am not totally
Steph Fox wrote:
>
> Can you build it as shared? I can't actually get --disable-all to work
> here, it keeps shouting about objects-out-dir being 'no'.
>
> - Steph
>
Ah, shoot, the disable-all thing... that's a configure bug steph, and I
have a patch to fix it sitting around here somewhere
Travis Swicegood wrote:
On Jun 19, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Steph Fox wrote:
There's nothing wrong with that approach. I'm trying to find
something that addresses the problem (i.e., "how can I not run tests
that are going to take a long time to run?"), while providing enough
flexibility to ans
Hey Jani,
You can run but you can't hide ;) I'm assuming this is down to you, since
you moved ereg.
I won't even pretend to understand browscap. Please remember to kill this
build exclusion if/when you fix it?
Thanks,
- Steph
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From: "Steph Fox" <[EMAIL PROTE
Hi!
The attached patch implements spl_unixify_path_separators(). If it's
I'm afraid that automatically applying slash conversions to all results
returned by SPL file functions - if that's what this patch does - may be
unwanted. This way SPL functions and regular file functions would return
That's why there is TextIterator. And it's also much faster (in PHP 6)
than iterating through string using indexes.
-Andrei
Stefan Walk wrote:
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 08:27:37 Arvids Godjuks wrote:
2008/6/16 Edward Z. Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
PHP userland code may not treat strings as first
Hi,
I like this generally, but cannot live with the BC issues raised.
Introducing all type names as keywords will make "class Object", "class
Integer" and so on give a syntax error.
That's actually not true, the patch does not introduce new keywords.
Hrm, the Wiki states it does:
http://w
Hi,
been busy again at work, sorry for the late answer.
I can look into setting up a "cruise-control"-like infrastructure on our
dev-machines that'll run these periodically.
Thanks for the offer, that would be very helpful. Is it possible to
have it for windows as well? It could also help if
Hi!
On the other hand, the only code likely to be broken would be
platform-specific code written for Windows boxes - how much of that is
likely to be out there? Another point is that, although Windows *writes*
Any amount, but I don't see why it would break only windows-specific
code. If I u
Any amount, but I don't see why it would break only windows-specific
code. If I use any other function to get filenames, and/or use
PATH_SEPARATOR to compose names, and then use these names in the same
context as those converting SPL function, I'd get different names on
Windows even if my app
The attached patch implements spl_unixify_path_separators(). If it's
I'm afraid that automatically applying slash conversions to all results
returned by SPL file functions - if that's what this patch does - may be
unwanted. This way SPL functions and regular file functions would return
diff
Hello Lester,
Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 9:14:52 AM, you wrote:
> OK - I've got PHP5.3.0-dev up at the moment in order to test the Firebird
> stuff, so display_errors is on. I need it on anyway while testing code.
> The 'problem' I am having is that of cause none of the other PHP stuff I'm
> us
Hi!
Windows even if my application was written in most generic way. Do I
miss something?
Doesn't PATH_SEPARATOR use DEFAULT_SLASH?
Should be DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR and it's "\" on windows (PATH_SEPARATOR is
";" ). Do you propose to change it to "/"?
Path comparison is important.
I thought
Hello Steph,
how about having this as an option inside the SPL classes that gets
turned on by Phar automatically? Inside SPL we could have it as a user
set-only flag.
marcus
Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 10:28:40 PM, you wrote:
> Index: ext/spl/spl_directory.c
> ==
Hi Marcus,
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Lester,
>
> Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 9:14:52 AM, you wrote:
>
>> OK - I've got PHP5.3.0-dev up at the moment in order to test the Firebird
>> stuff, so display_errors is on. I need it on anyway while tes
Hi Marcus,
how about having this as an option inside the SPL classes that gets
turned on by Phar automatically? Inside SPL we could have it as a user
set-only flag.
You are brilliant. I owe you a beer :)
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Hi Stas,
Doesn't PATH_SEPARATOR use DEFAULT_SLASH?
Should be DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR
Bleh, must be nearly switching-off time
and it's "\" on windows (PATH_SEPARATOR is ";" ). Do you propose to change
it to "/"?
dirsep_str[0] = DEFAULT_SLASH;
dirsep_str[1] = '\0';
REGISTER_STRING_CONSTANT("D
Hi!
Fair point. I like Marcus' idea tho'.
As long as the default stays the same and doesn't hurt anybody not
touching the option - go for it.
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Hi,
I am also sorry for delay - got ill recently and spend a day in bed
after night at emergency. I am working on other things now, and hope
to post some patches soon. I will create patch for zend_memnstr as
you suggest and post it here probably tomorrow. I have some ideas/
implementations/
Yes, I would rather put it in 5.4 (or whatever the next version) is and
make sure that along with lambdas/closures we have a way of referring to
functions/methods as first-class objects.
-Andrei
Marcus Boerger wrote:
Hello Stanislav,
nicely put but not in agreement with the PHP world. Firs
Hi!
While we nearing the release of 5.3 (hopefully?), there are many
functions in the PHP code which still use old parameter parsing API
(zend_get_parameters_ex) instead of the new one (zend_parse_parameters).
I have cleaned up Zend engine functions, converting them to the new API,
but there
Hello
Em Qui, 2008-06-19 às 16:06 -0700, Stanislav Malyshev escreveu:
> Hi!
>
> While we nearing the release of 5.3 (hopefully?), there are many
> functions in the PHP code which still use old parameter parsing API
> (zend_get_parameters_ex) instead of the new one (zend_parse_parameters).
>
Y
Hi Dmitry,
First of all: Your patch does really simplify things internally quite a
bit - I like it. I have a few issues though:
The patch shouldn't affect opcode caches and other extensions as it
doesn't change any structures.
I don't see a problem in changing structures for either extensions
First, a comment from haskell-land:
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-June/044533.html
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-June/thread.html#44379
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Christian Seiler wrote:
> Frankly, I don't really see a problem with using references. It fit
Hi!
First, a comment from haskell-land:
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-June/044533.html
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-June/thread.html#44379
Thanks for the links, very interesting. Even a couple of comments in the
thread going beyond "PHP sucks" and re
While we nearing the release of 5.3 (hopefully?), there are many
functions in the PHP code which still use old parameter parsing API
(zend_get_parameters_ex) instead of the new one
(zend_parse_parameters).
Yeah, I have noticed... That's also in my TODO.
Where is the Felipe fan club signup
On Friday 20 June 2008, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> * A closure must be able to call itself recursively (via a
> higher-order function typically)
> [Check, since you can use variable you assigned closure to inside the
> closure, if I understand correctly]
This is a matter of implementation rather
Hi!
Yes, I would rather put it in 5.4 (or whatever the next version) is and
make sure that along with lambdas/closures we have a way of referring to
functions/methods as first-class objects.
Maybe we could make some object handler so that $object($foo) would work
and treat object as "functio
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