[PHP-DEV] PHP 5.2.3 and libxml compile failure on Win32

2007-06-14 Thread Marco
Hi All We are having a problem compiling PHP 5.2.3 under win32. Building PHP on Win32 using VS2005 following the instructions at http://hu2.php.net/manual/en/install.windows.building.php the build fails unless libxml support is disabled. If it is configured as cscript /nologo configure.js --en

Re: [PHP-DEV] Building on Windows

2007-06-14 Thread Rob Richards
Hi Zoe, Zoe Slattery wrote: Has anyone built PHP6 using Visual C++ Express Edition V8? The symptoms I get are pretty well described in http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=39130 and I'm just wondering if this was fixed for PHP5 and not PHP6? Other than a slew of warnings, it built fine for me the ot

[PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like "unicode.semantics" option. Derick didn't remember, neither did I. Apparently it's another one of these "register_globals" or "magic_quotes_*" directives we'll remove i

[PHP-DEV] Re: What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Scott MacVicar
I have to agree, I think giving the ability to toggle Unicode support is going to add more confusion and grief for application developers, especially with it being PHP_INI_SYSTEM. The reason for the option as far I can remember was to do with performance when you were working with binary strings,

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Pierre
Hi Jani, On 6/14/07, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like "unicode.semantics" option. Derick didn't remember, neither did I. Apparently it's another one of these

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Pierre wrote: > Hi Jani, > > On 6/14/07, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder > > what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like > > "unicode.semantics" option. Derick didn't remember,

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Pierre
On 6/14/07, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Pierre wrote: > Hi Jani, > > On 6/14/07, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder > > what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Building on Windows

2007-06-14 Thread Zoe Slattery
Hi Rob Other than a slew of warnings, it built fine for me the other day with VS 2005. What version of the SDK are you using as I wonder if that might play a part in it? Was your VS 2005 the Express Edition (ie the free one)? I downloaded the platform SDK yesterday at the same time as I got the

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Jani Taskinen wrote: > During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder > what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like > "unicode.semantics" option. Derick didn't remember, neither did I. > > Apparently it's another one of these "register_globals" or > "magic_qu

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Tomas Kuliavas
>> During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder >> what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like >> "unicode.semantics" option. Derick didn't remember, neither did I. >> >> Apparently it's another one of these "register_globals" or >> "magic_quotes_*" directiv

Re: [PHP-DEV] Building on Windows

2007-06-14 Thread Pierre
Hi Zoe, On 6/14/07, Zoe Slattery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Rob > Other than a slew of warnings, it built fine for me the other day with > VS 2005. What version of the SDK are you using as I wonder if that > might play a part in it? Was your VS 2005 the Express Edition (ie the free one)? I do

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Pierre
On 6/14/07, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jani Taskinen wrote: > During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder > what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like > "unicode.semantics" option. Derick didn't remember, neither did I. > > Apparently it's

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi Jani, On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 16:53 +0300, Jani Taskinen wrote: > During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder > what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like > "unicode.semantics" option. Derick didn't remember, neither did I. The reason was to "keep BC"

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Pierre wrote: > On 6/14/07, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jani Taskinen wrote: >> > During Derick's talk about PHP 6 at PHP Vikinger, I started to wonder >> > what exactly was the reasoning behind adding something like >> > "unicode.semantics" option. Derick didn't remember, neither

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Johannes Schlüter wrote: > - This feature doesn't bring BC - there will still be enough BC > breaks. Name one, please. The idea is that there shouldn't be any, so if you have found one, please file a bug. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Building on Windows

2007-06-14 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Has anyone built PHP6 using Visual C++ Express Edition V8? The symptoms I get are pretty well described in http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=39130 and I'm just wondering if this was fixed for PHP5 and not PHP6? Ah, this is a very familiar issue, you need to set USE_32BIT_TIME_T in either project

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Pierre
Hi Rasmus, On 6/14/07, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a side note, we had the same thoughts about php5, it did not work. Not really. Nothing in PHP 5 was designed to break compatibility with PHP 4. In theory, I agree with you here, we were very careful about BC. However in p

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
I mean, if PHP 6 is about unicode, why upgrade to PHP 6 and disable it? To get late static binding and namespaces, of course ;) -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zend.com/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: ht

[Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?]

2007-06-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
--- Begin Message --- AFAIK, neither exist (yet?) in PHP 6.. (I might have missed some commits while I was awol in A-stan :) --Jani Stanislav Malyshev kirjoitti: I mean, if PHP 6 is about unicode, why upgrade to PHP 6 and disable it? To get late static binding and namespaces, of course ;)

[Fwd: Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?]

2007-06-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
--- Begin Message --- Rasmus Lerdorf kirjoitti: Johannes Schlüter wrote: - This feature doesn't bring BC - there will still be enough BC breaks. Name one, please. The idea is that there shouldn't be any, so if you have found one, please file a bug. Some might say removing register_global

Re: [PHP-DEV] Building on Windows

2007-06-14 Thread Rob Richards
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Has anyone built PHP6 using Visual C++ Express Edition V8? The symptoms I get are pretty well described in http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=39130 and I'm just wondering if this was fixed for PHP5 and not PHP6? Ah, this is a very familiar issue, you need to set USE_32BI

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Tomas Kuliavas
>>> - This feature doesn't bring BC - there will still be enough BC >>> breaks. >> >> Name one, please. The idea is that there shouldn't be any, so if you >> have found one, please file a bug. > > Some might say removing register_globals, magic_quotes_*, etc. are BC > break. If code is portable

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
On 6/14/07, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I mean, if PHP 6 is about unicode, why upgrade to PHP 6 and disable it? I think if unicode.semantics remains PHP_INI_SYSTEM it is useless as most users ( people that runs in shared hosting servers) will simple not be able to turn it on, as w

Re: [PHP-DEV] What is the use of "unicode.semantics" in PHP 6?

2007-06-14 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Cristian Rodriguez wrote: > On 6/14/07, Jani Taskinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I mean, if PHP 6 is about unicode, why upgrade to PHP 6 and disable it? > > I think if unicode.semantics remains PHP_INI_SYSTEM it is useless as > most users ( people that runs in shared hosting servers) will si