Re: [PHP-DEV] wishlist item for 6.0.0

2005-10-08 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
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[PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through the timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. My suggestion is to restore the old code in its entirely, and introduce the new implementation as new functions with a proper prefix, a-la PHP 2005. I think it's bett

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through the > timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. > > My suggestion is to restore the old code in its entirely, and introduce the > new implementation as new functions with a p

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 15:33 08/10/2005, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through the > timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. > > My suggestion is to restore the old code in its entirely, and introduce the >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Christian Stocker
On 8.10.2005 15:30 Uhr, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through > the timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. IIRC the conclusion was, that Derick tries to make the TZ detection better (which was the only BC problem, AFAIK). And ac

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 15:44 08/10/2005, Christian Stocker wrote: On 8.10.2005 15:30 Uhr, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through > the timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. IIRC the conclusion was, that Derick tries to make the TZ detection bette

RE: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Mike Robinson
Christian Stocker wrote: > IIRC the conclusion was, that Derick tries to make the TZ > detection better (which was the only BC problem, AFAIK). And > according to him, that's now almost solved (except some weird > problems on Windows). > > He even made a pecl package for updating the TZ data ea

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
Zeev Suraski wrote: > Ok, maybe I missed it in the lengthy thread. I suspect that is very much the case. Derick has been working quite diligently over the last little while at getting the BC problems solved and as far as I know all but a few Win32 issues have been resolved to everyones satisfacti

Re: [PHP-DEV] wishlist item for 6.0.0

2005-10-08 Thread Michael Crute
On 10/8/05, Sebastian Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jani Taskinen schrieb: > > $this->is_fine. > > $me->agrees(); > > Count me in for $this->way. It just makes more sense and is far easier to read. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup D

Re: [PHP-DEV] wishlist item for 6.0.0

2005-10-08 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Stanislav, $.this_is_ridiculous, as in $.this != $this marcus Thursday, October 6, 2005, 11:14:39 AM, you wrote: HH>>>So i'm all for keeping the $this-> prefix even though it adds some HH>>>extra typing ... > Just a thought - we could have compromise solution, i.e. some syntax sugar

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Lukas Smith
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: Ok, maybe I missed it in the lengthy thread. I suspect that is very much the case. Derick has been working quite diligently over the last little while at getting the BC problems solved and as far as I know all but a few Win32 issues have been reso

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Nuno Lopes
On 8.10.2005 15:30 Uhr, Zeev Suraski wrote: I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through the timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. IIRC the conclusion was, that Derick tries to make the TZ detection better (which was the only BC problem, AFAIK). And accor

[PHP-DEV] return /* by reference */ new Foo() in PHP4

2005-10-08 Thread Matthias Pigulla
Hi all, first of all I do not want to set off yet another discussion about the changes 4.4 brought. I do understand why the changes were necessary, and in most of the cases, I would even endorse that pieces of code that trigger the new "only variable..." waring are "bad code". Anyways, to me it s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Lester Caine
Zeev Suraski wrote: If the TZ detection works reliable, I don't see any reason to revert or postpone Dericks work, the timezone handling of his implementation is so much better than the old one, it's really worth the upgrade for everyone having to deal with different timezones. Ok, maybe I mis

[PHP-DEV] Re: return /* by reference */ new Foo() in PHP4

2005-10-08 Thread Oliver Grätz
Matthias Pigulla schrieb: > So, in case of "return new", wouldn't it make sense to remove the > warning as the code is 'legal'? And please, don't start a new "it's just > a friendly notice" flame war. Throwing a notice here is complete nonsense. All thinkable languages use this coding style of "r

Re: [PHP-DEV] return /* by reference */ new Foo() in PHP4

2005-10-08 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Matthias Pigulla wrote: So, in case of "return new", wouldn't it make sense to remove the warning as the code is 'legal'? And please, don't start a new "it's just a friendly notice" flame war. It's just a notice, tune your error_reporting level accordingly. --Jani

[PHP-DEV] update on install-pear.phar situation

2005-10-08 Thread Greg Beaver
Hi all, I just committed an install-pear.phar that uses a bootleg Archive/Tar.php without the double-@ that caused the problem, and on my gentoo system it installed like a charm. If others could verify this is fixed from the "make instal-pear" end on their systems, that would be great. One less

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Lukas Smith wrote: > Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > > Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > >Ok, maybe I missed it in the lengthy thread. > > > > > > > > I suspect that is very much the case. Derick has been working quite > > diligently over the last little while at getting the BC problem

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Lester Caine wrote: > Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > If the TZ detection works reliable, I don't see any reason to revert or > > > postpone Dericks work, the timezone handling of his implementation is so > > > much better than the old one, it's really worth the upgrade for everyo

Re: [PHP-DEV] return /* by reference */ new Foo() in PHP4

2005-10-08 Thread Todd Ruth
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 21:57 +0200, Matthias Pigulla wrote: > ... This > was bug #33558 and has been fixed in 4.4.1RC1. Does that give 34551 any chance of being fixed? 33558 is just an annoying notice, but 34551 is a real BC break in 4.4 that wasn't documented and will likely continue to bite peop

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Lukas Smith
Derick Rethans wrote: You don't need this, as there is: http://no.php.net/date_default_timezone_set cool .. now we only need to get the list of possible legal TZ's documented (or linked from the docs) .. atleast I do not see it yet (but it might be just me not seeing it at 5 am after coming

Re: [PHP-DEV] Unicode Implementation

2005-10-08 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > > Which is why we need the unicode=off switch. I don't think there is any > > way we can make Unicode PHP as fast as non-Unicode PHP. For people who > > need Unicode support, Unicode PHP will be faster and