Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage

2005-09-29 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Andi Gutmans wrote: > When I agreed to commit this for PHP 5.1, Derick promised that this was going > to completely keep BC. That is obviously not happening. While I appreciate his > efforts, I think as with the reference change, this will cause much more > widespread pain tha

Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage

2005-09-29 Thread Lester Caine
Andi Gutmans wrote: I agree, and we should currently have both so that we can migrate users to Derick's new code. Derick, I think you need to return the support for the old functionality (it can probably be done quite easily by taking the old code as-is). We should then have an INI option whi

Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage

2005-09-29 Thread Jani Taskinen
The "masses" don't have to update. The old broken date() is still in PHP 4.4.0 and PHP 5.0.x. Please stop the BC fud, this is not about a bugfix release but something a bit bigger thing. One other solution: we can always change PHP_5_1 to PHP_6 and do all other nice "BC"

[PHP-DEV] New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/

2005-09-29 Thread Edin Kadribasic
Hi, For those of you that I didn't already bother with the news :) There is a new site for downloads of precompiled windows binaries of PECL extensions at http://pecl4win.php.net/ To see for which PHP branches you can download, say php_oci8.dll PECL extension, point your browser at http://pecl4w

Re: [PHP-DEV] New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/

2005-09-29 Thread Lester Caine
Edin Kadribasic wrote: For those of you that I didn't already bother with the news :) We get rather set in our ways where we look for news ;) There is a new site for downloads of precompiled windows binaries of PECL extensions at http://pecl4win.php.net/ Should Branches have something in? PE

Re: [PHP-DEV] New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/

2005-09-29 Thread Dan Scott
On 9/29/05, Edin Kadribasic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > For those of you that I didn't already bother with the news :) > > There is a new site for downloads of precompiled windows binaries of > PECL extensions at http://pecl4win.php.net/ > > To see for which PHP branches you can download,

RE: [PHP-DEV] New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/

2005-09-29 Thread Grant Croker
> -Original Message- > From: Edin Kadribasic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DEV] New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/ > > Hi, > > For those of you that I didn't already bother with the

Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage

2005-09-29 Thread Wez Furlong
Call it FUD if you like; I call it "sleeping easier at night". Like it or not, PHP is big enough now that these things have become critical points for larger businesses. To completely replace the default implementation of a core function with something new is quite a risk when it's not had enough

Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage

2005-09-29 Thread Andi Gutmans
We know you want to break as many apps as possible, but many of us prefer to be more accomodating to the large amount of apps out there and do it in a gradual and controlled way. For example, with the date(), having a version (such as 5.1.x) which emits a warning and allows to select old behavio

Re: [PHP-DEV] New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/

2005-09-29 Thread Wez Furlong
Thanks Edin :) --Wez. On 9/29/05, Edin Kadribasic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > For those of you that I didn't already bother with the news :) > > There is a new site for downloads of precompiled windows binaries of > PECL extensions at http://pecl4win.php.net/ > > To see for which PHP bra

Re: [PHP-DEV] New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/

2005-09-29 Thread Wez Furlong
We'll work on updating peclweb and the online docs to make use of this new facility. --Wez. On 9/29/05, Grant Croker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ps any chance of a link from a project's extension page to the pecl4win > site? -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe

Re: [PHP-DEV] New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/

2005-09-29 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
Edin, Great work as usual, many thanks. Ilia Edin Kadribasic wrote: > Hi, > > For those of you that I didn't already bother with the news :) > > There is a new site for downloads of precompiled windows binaries of > PECL extensions at http://pecl4win.php.net/ > > To see for which PHP branches

Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage

2005-09-29 Thread Andi Gutmans
I completely agree here, and it was only because I was sure that it was only an implementation and not a functionality change that I agreed for it to be commited. We could do something like NIO in Java, and have newr APIs for this functionality, this way people who want to use the new APIs win (

Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage

2005-09-29 Thread Andi Gutmans
Quick check so I completely understand where we are: - In Israel the timezone DB changes every year (we start savings time on different dates every year depending on the parliament decision). I see that in your implementation this DB is taken from a table written in C. Are you saying that this

[PHP-DEV] Re: New site: http://pecl4win.php.net/

2005-09-29 Thread Peter Brodersen
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:44:31 +0200, in php.internals [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edin Kadribasic) wrote: >There is a new site for downloads of precompiled windows binaries of >PECL extensions at http://pecl4win.php.net/ > >To see for which PHP branches you can download, say php_oci8.dll PECL >extension, po

Re: [PHP-DEV] timezones & date() breakage

2005-09-29 Thread Peter Brodersen
Hi, On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:00:53 -0700, in php.internals [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andi Gutmans) wrote: >For example, with the date(), having a version (such as 5.1.x) which >emits a warning and allows to select old behavior via INI. Again, out of curiousity. What would the impact be for a developer/u