Hi Mathias
2017-07-19 19:07 GMT+02:00 Mathias Grimm :
> I was briefly asking Sara about it and as she pointed out it is likely a
> big project but I think we can do something about it.
A side note to all of this, I would personally like to see if parts of
php.net redone, that we can integrate win
On 21/07/17 09:47, Tony Marston wrote:
> Why on earth should you need to use HTTPS for a website that does not
> deal with personal information? Nothing on that website can possibly be
> classed as "sensitive" so what would be the point?
That applies to many of the websites I support yet the likes
Am 21.07.2017 um 10:47 schrieb Tony Marston:
We should really change that and fully move to HTTPS.
Regards, Niklas
Why on earth should you need to use HTTPS for a website that does not
deal with personal information? Nothing on that website can possibly be
classed as "sensitive" so what wo
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Tony Marston wrote:
>
> Why on earth should you need to use HTTPS for a website that does not deal
> with personal information? Nothing on that website can possibly be classed
> as "sensitive" so what would be the point?
>
Because HTTPS isn't just about encr
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Mathias Grimm
wrote:
> I was briefly asking Sara about it and as she pointed out it is likely
> a
> big project but I think we can do something about
If php is mainly static it could be almost fully cached in a CDN.
For the downloads I don't think the latency would be a problem but that can
also be in the CDN
If php owned two servers in US and two in Europe and possibly 2 in Asia we
would be goon in terms of latency for the search IMO.
On 20
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Larry Garfield
wrote:
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> I figure this is a long-shot, but Platform.sh hosts a number of
> community sites for free. (We recently became the home of
> https://externals.io/, for example.) We have multiple data centers and
> SSL-all-the-things using Lets Encrypt.
On 07/20/2017 12:38 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Niklas Keller wrote:
>> They can also just request them themselves, but only for their mirror
>> domain. If you allow them to issue for www.php.net, you can as well just
>> put the current private key there.
>>
> I th
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Niklas Keller wrote:
>
> They can also just request them themselves, but only for their mirror
> domain. If you allow them to issue for www.php.net, you can as well just
> put the current private key there.
>
I think there is a big difference between putting the p
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Stephen Reay
wrote:
>
> Does it need to be geo-dns, or could it instead be "geo-http" - a small
> number of servers responding to (www.)?php.net, which then respond with
> http redirects based on client ip. This is similar to how Debians "new"
> mirror service wor
Am 19.07.2017 um 19:07 schrieb Mathias Grimm:
I would like to know who is/are "in charge" of the website (
https://github.com/php/web-php).
I think I would like to help improving it a bit
a good start would be http://www.php.net/ also support https:// instead
one needs to know that https://s
>
> I have looked at various ways of doing this, but it isn't trivial and it
> has absolutely nothing to do with the actual html and slapping in some
> https links instead of http. The problem here is that we have external
> volunteers running all our mirrors and we do geo-dns for www.php.net to
>
> On 20 Jul 2017, at 07:40, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Niklas Keller wrote:
>>
>>
>> We should really change that and fully move to HTTPS.
>>
>
> I have looked at various ways of doing this, but it isn't trivial and it
> has absolutely nothing to do with the
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Sara Golemon wrote:
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> * Use docker hub as the distribution channel. (https out of the box)
>
Getting https support in the web server is not what prevents us from
getting https for www.php.net. It is key management across our geodns
www.php.net that is the limiti
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Niklas Keller wrote:
>
> We should really change that and fully move to HTTPS.
>
I have looked at various ways of doing this, but it isn't trivial and it
has absolutely nothing to do with the actual html and slapping in some
https links instead of http. The probl
As someone who has made a decent number of changes to the website I think
our future direction should focus on these points:
1. Ease of setup and deployment
2. Fewer moving parts (related to above)
3. Move to modern HTML, JavaScript and CSS practices (perhaps completely
disallowing inline CS
>
> And for my $0.02, I agree with Andreas. Caesar's wife must be beyond
> reproach, and quite frankly there is plenty that can be done to
> beautify/update the web-php codebase that doesn't involve frameworks.
> *cough*globals*cough*.
>
> In fact, if you want to start with a more constrained prob
Bugs could be good thing as well.
What the case with the bugs?
For the php.net I think it could actually be worthy generating html.
But as I said, the idea is to make the code readable again, be it with a
framework or not.
Having all that html mixed with php + globals is really bad. Even if we
wan
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Andreas Heigl wrote:
> I personally strongly disagree with that approach. Most of the pages on
> php.net are static pages. And those few that aren't can be well addressed
> with their own script and within that vanillaPHP-script the task can be
> solved. IMO there
On Mi, 2017-07-19 at 21:34 +0200, Mathias Grimm wrote:
> Thats a valid point but that can be addressed in some nice ways.
>
> The documentation can mention it somehow and that doesn't mean
> somebody else should use that framework/lib for every project/case.
> That would be similar to saying that
> Am 19.07.2017 um 20:34 schrieb Mathias Grimm :
>
> Thats a valid point but that can be addressed in some nice ways.
>
> The documentation can mention it somehow and that doesn't mean somebody else
> should use that framework/lib for every project/case.
> That would be similar to saying that
Thats a valid point but that can be addressed in some nice ways.
The documentation can mention it somehow and that doesn't mean somebody
else should use that framework/lib for every project/case.
That would be similar to saying that we prefer Linux over Windows, just
because we use Linux hosting a
Am 19.07.2017 um 19:12 schrieb Mathias Grimm :
>
> I think it's a great idea about docker, although a separated project.
>
> The wiki says minimum php is 5.3 but that page is from 2013 and would be
> really great to not depend on the mirrors php version, although we can
> write beautiful php even
On 19 July 2017 at 20:06, Mathias Grimm wrote:
>
>
> On 19 July 2017 at 19:41, Niklas Keller wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>>
>>> I would like to know who is/are "in charge" of the website (
>>> https://github.com/php/web-php).
>>> I think I would like to help improving it a bit.
>>>
>>> I can possibly un
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Niklas Keller wrote:
> We should really change that and fully move to HTTPS.
>
I was actually just thinking how lovely it would be to re-architect
the mirroring process to use docker images.
Benefits:
* Usual consistent/predictable deployment arguments...
* Full c
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Mathias Grimm
> wrote:
> > I was briefly asking Sara about it and as she pointed out it is likely a
> > big project but I think we can do something about it.
> >
> One thing I should have mentioned on twitter was:
> https://wiki.php.net/web/mirror
>
> That'll g
Hey,
> I would like to know who is/are "in charge" of the website (
> https://github.com/php/web-php).
> I think I would like to help improving it a bit.
>
> I can possibly understand the reasons why it is still like it is, code
> wise, but I think there is a lot of room from improvement. Also, f
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Mathias Grimm wrote:
> I was briefly asking Sara about it and as she pointed out it is likely a
> big project but I think we can do something about it.
>
One thing I should have mentioned on twitter was:
https://wiki.php.net/web/mirror
That'll get you a locally ru
I can help.
> On 19 Jul 2017, at 19:07, Mathias Grimm wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know who is/are "in charge" of the website (
> https://github.com/php/web-php).
> I think I would like to help improving it a bit.
>
> I can possibly understand the reasons why it is still like it is, code
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