Stefan Marr wrote:
On 26 Mar 2010, at 10:26, mathieu.suen wrote:
Variable has been discuss in *http://tinyurl.com/y9t7nd9
Right, and related to that we have freezable traits
http://scg.unibe.ch/scgbib?_k=NNRwidu5&query=freezable+traits&display=abstract
Which influenced this RFC for PH
On 26 Mar 2010, at 10:26, mathieu.suen wrote:
> Variable has been discuss in *http://tinyurl.com/y9t7nd9
Right, and related to that we have freezable traits
http://scg.unibe.ch/scgbib?_k=NNRwidu5&query=freezable+traits&display=abstract
Which influenced this RFC for PHP: http://wiki.php.net/rfc/n
Stefan Marr wrote:
On 25 Mar 2010, at 21:30, Stefan Marr wrote:
On 25 Mar 2010, at 16:37, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
Hi,
this was just brought up on IRC. my understanding is that traits have no
concept of properties, but grafts do (all hidden internally). correct?
Right, the Tra
Stefan Marr wrote:
> Well, my personal (I admit very academic) position is:
> - Traits are not classes
> - Traits are not interfaces
> - Traits are not types
> - Traits cannot be instantiated
>
> Thus, there is no meaning of a is_a and instanceof
+1
--
Sebastian Bergmann
On 25.03.2010, at 22:59, Stefan Marr wrote:
>
> On 25 Mar 2010, at 21:30, Stefan Marr wrote:
>> On 25 Mar 2010, at 16:37, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this was just brought up on IRC. my understanding is that traits have no
>>> concept of properties, but grafts do (all hidden inter
On 25.03.2010, at 21:23, Stefan Marr wrote:
> Hi:
>
>
> On 24 Mar 2010, at 17:58, Jonathan Bond-Caron wrote:
>> One thing I feel is missing from the RFC is how is_a() and instanceof are
>> affected with traits or grafts.
> Well, my personal (I admit very academic) position is:
> - Traits are no
On 25.03.2010, at 21:13, Stefan Marr wrote:
> On 24 Mar 2010, at 11:50, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>> "In case of the above definition of Talker, PHP will show a warning that
>> there have been conflicts and name the methods smallTalk() and bigTalk() as
>> the reason of this conflict. Therefore,
On 25 Mar 2010, at 21:30, Stefan Marr wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2010, at 16:37, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> this was just brought up on IRC. my understanding is that traits have no
>> concept of properties, but grafts do (all hidden internally). correct?
> Right, the Traits proposal as it is
On 25 Mar 2010, at 16:37, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this was just brought up on IRC. my understanding is that traits have no
> concept of properties, but grafts do (all hidden internally). correct?
Right, the Traits proposal as it is at the moment, avoids the explicit
discussion of st
Hi:
On 24 Mar 2010, at 17:58, Jonathan Bond-Caron wrote:
> One thing I feel is missing from the RFC is how is_a() and instanceof are
> affected with traits or grafts.
Well, my personal (I admit very academic) position is:
- Traits are not classes
- Traits are not interfaces
- Traits are not ty
Hi,
On 24 Mar 2010, at 11:50, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> "In case of the above definition of Talker, PHP will show a warning that
> there have been conflicts and name the methods smallTalk() and bigTalk() as
> the reason of this conflict. Therefore, neither of the given implementations
> will b
Hi
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> On 25.03.2010, at 14:48, David Soria Parra wrote:
>> Stefan what do you think about "stackable traits" ?
>
>
> Woha .. that code really scares me.
>
While I like features like this in other languages, I think it would
be a big break
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Am 25.03.10 16:21, schrieb Stefan Marr:
>
> On 25 Mar 2010, at 16:00, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>> On 25.03.2010, at 14:48, David Soria Parra wrote:
>>> This approach is taken in scala and works pretty fine there for composing
>>> classes
>>> during r
Hi,
this was just brought up on IRC. my understanding is that traits have no
concept of properties, but grafts do (all hidden internally). correct?
regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
m...@pooteeweet.org
--
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net
On 25 Mar 2010, at 16:00, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> On 25.03.2010, at 14:48, David Soria Parra wrote:
>> This approach is taken in scala and works pretty fine there for composing
>> classes
>> during runtime and should be douable in PHP too. For sure aliasing is not
>> possible in this example.
On 25.03.2010, at 14:48, David Soria Parra wrote:
> Just as a general idea (which is certainly something after traits are
> implemented once)
>
> Scala offers stackable traits so that you can mixin traits during object
> creation.
> An example:
>
> trait Philosophical {
>public function t
Just as a general idea (which is certainly something after traits are
implemented once)
Scala offers stackable traits so that you can mixin traits during object
creation.
An example:
trait Philosophical {
public function think () {
echo "Cogito ergo sum";
}
}
trait Drink {
Hi Lukas,
Hi Jonathan:
Just a quick response on the renaming issue.
On 24 Mar 2010, at 18:04, Jonathan Bond-Caron wrote:
> On Wed Mar 24 06:50 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>> The third sentence is not so clear to me, but if I guess it its also
>> just a typo as it makes more sense to me when re
On Wed Mar 24 06:50 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> The third sentence is not so clear to me, but if I guess it its also
> just a typo as it makes more sense to me when replacing "renaming" to
> "result in renaming". But maybe you could tweak that paragraph to be a
> bit clearer. For example its
On Wed Mar 24 06:50 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> Ahoi,
>
> Thought it would be better to open up a new thread and also using the
> term "horizontal reuse" in the subject so that we make it clearer that
> there are actually two approaches. Here is the URL for Stefan's
> proposal:
> http://wiki.
20 matches
Mail list logo
