Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-11 Thread Zeev Suraski
As many as make sense. But this thread is dead, if all goes well and the work Derick has done sorts things out. Zeev At 01:18 11/10/2005, Andrei Zmievski wrote: How many date formatting functions do we need? -Andrei Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of week

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-11 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Andrei Zmievski wrote: > How many date formatting functions do we need? Two, one for non-locale based formatting, and one for locale based formatting. Unfortunately as we only have a 32 bit integer we also need some outside of the current date() one, so that makes 4 (if we

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-10 Thread Andrei Zmievski
How many date formatting functions do we need? -Andrei Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through the > timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. > > My suggestion is to restore the old code in its entirely, and introduce > the > new imp

RE: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-09 Thread Mike Robinson
> I started the build when I got home at 3am ;-) It's now online: > http://www.php.net/manual/en/timezones.php, I'll check later > today where I want to link this in exactly. Nice work on this TZ stuff Derick. My thanks. Best, Mike Robinson -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-09 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Lukas Smith wrote: > Derick Rethans wrote: > > > You don't need this, as there is: > > http://no.php.net/date_default_timezone_set > > cool .. > > now we only need to get the list of possible legal TZ's documented (or linked > from the docs) .. atleast I do not see it yet (b

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-09 Thread Nuno Lopes
Derick Rethans wrote: You don't need this, as there is: http://no.php.net/date_default_timezone_set cool .. now we only need to get the list of possible legal TZ's documented (or linked from the docs) .. atleast I do not see it yet (but it might be just me not seeing it at 5 am after coming

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Lukas Smith
Derick Rethans wrote: You don't need this, as there is: http://no.php.net/date_default_timezone_set cool .. now we only need to get the list of possible legal TZ's documented (or linked from the docs) .. atleast I do not see it yet (but it might be just me not seeing it at 5 am after coming

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Lester Caine wrote: > Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > If the TZ detection works reliable, I don't see any reason to revert or > > > postpone Dericks work, the timezone handling of his implementation is so > > > much better than the old one, it's really worth the upgrade for everyo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Lukas Smith wrote: > Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > > Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > >Ok, maybe I missed it in the lengthy thread. > > > > > > > > I suspect that is very much the case. Derick has been working quite > > diligently over the last little while at getting the BC problem

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Lester Caine
Zeev Suraski wrote: If the TZ detection works reliable, I don't see any reason to revert or postpone Dericks work, the timezone handling of his implementation is so much better than the old one, it's really worth the upgrade for everyone having to deal with different timezones. Ok, maybe I mis

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Nuno Lopes
On 8.10.2005 15:30 Uhr, Zeev Suraski wrote: I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through the timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. IIRC the conclusion was, that Derick tries to make the TZ detection better (which was the only BC problem, AFAIK). And accor

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Lukas Smith
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: Ok, maybe I missed it in the lengthy thread. I suspect that is very much the case. Derick has been working quite diligently over the last little while at getting the BC problems solved and as far as I know all but a few Win32 issues have been reso

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
Zeev Suraski wrote: > Ok, maybe I missed it in the lengthy thread. I suspect that is very much the case. Derick has been working quite diligently over the last little while at getting the BC problems solved and as far as I know all but a few Win32 issues have been resolved to everyones satisfacti

RE: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Mike Robinson
Christian Stocker wrote: > IIRC the conclusion was, that Derick tries to make the TZ > detection better (which was the only BC problem, AFAIK). And > according to him, that's now almost solved (except some weird > problems on Windows). > > He even made a pecl package for updating the TZ data ea

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 15:44 08/10/2005, Christian Stocker wrote: On 8.10.2005 15:30 Uhr, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through > the timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. IIRC the conclusion was, that Derick tries to make the TZ detection bette

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Christian Stocker
On 8.10.2005 15:30 Uhr, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through > the timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. IIRC the conclusion was, that Derick tries to make the TZ detection better (which was the only BC problem, AFAIK). And ac

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 15:33 08/10/2005, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through the > timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. > > My suggestion is to restore the old code in its entirely, and introduce the >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Timezone stuff - conclusion

2005-10-08 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I've been away from email for the last couple of weeks - read through the > timezone thread, and didn't really see a conclusion. > > My suggestion is to restore the old code in its entirely, and introduce the > new implementation as new functions with a p