Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting choice for language changes (Was: "Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Strict Argument Count")

2015-07-26 Thread S.A.N
> > Then why not put the base class in the namespace of which it is a base class > for? > Locations source PHP file is the same as in namespace. App/RestException.php App/RestException/NotFound.php App/RestException/BadRequest.php I did refactoring code, without group use: http://www.php.net/u

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting choice for language changes (Was: "Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Strict Argument Count")

2015-07-25 Thread David Muir
> On 24 Jul 2015, at 2:33 am, "S.A.N" wrote: > > 2015-07-23 18:10 GMT+03:00 Marcio Almada : >> Hi, you replied to the wrong thread ;) >> >> 2015-07-22 19:38 GMT-03:00 S.A.N : >>> I am satisfied, the possibility of group declarations, but the that lack: >>> >>> >> >>> use App\RestException\

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting choice for language changes (Was: "Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Strict Argument Count")

2015-07-23 Thread S.A.N
2015-07-23 18:10 GMT+03:00 Marcio Almada : > Hi, you replied to the wrong thread ;) > > 2015-07-22 19:38 GMT-03:00 S.A.N : >> I am satisfied, the possibility of group declarations, but the that lack: >> >> > >> use App\RestException\ // name "RestException", not imported to >> current namespace :

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting choice for language changes (Was: "Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Strict Argument Count")

2015-07-23 Thread Marcio Almada
Hi, you replied to the wrong thread ;) 2015-07-22 19:38 GMT-03:00 S.A.N : > I am satisfied, the possibility of group declarations, but the that lack: > > > use App\RestException\ // name "RestException", not imported to > current namespace :( > { > Gone, > NotFound, > BadRequest > }

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting choice for language changes (Was: "Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Strict Argument Count")

2015-07-22 Thread S.A.N
I am satisfied, the possibility of group declarations, but the that lack: Unfortunately have to write so: It looks ugly and very strange. My proposition, the imported end name, if end of without slash. Like this: 2015-03-11 11:08 GMT+02:00 Patrick ALLAERT : > Le mar. 10 mars 2015 à 19:29,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting choice for language changes (Was: "Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Strict Argument Count")

2015-03-10 Thread Larry Garfield
On 3/10/15 1:29 PM, Marcio Almada wrote: I think we should do some effort to discuss and discard as much options as possible so we can have max 2 options or maybe eliminate the secondary voting at all (which is the perfect scenario IMMO), but this requires a good absolute number of opinions. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re voting

2012-04-17 Thread Ronald Chmara
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:42 PM, wrote: > Stas: > > Just b/c there are rarely any women at all that participate on this list, > could we at list maintain a facade of gender neutrality? One of my favorite PHP dev folks is Sara Golemon. A fucking rock star. Female, I believe. I think she might be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re voting

2012-04-17 Thread Kris Craig
Sharon, On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:42 PM, wrote: > Stas: > > Just b/c there are rarely any women at all that participate on this list, > could we at list maintain a facade of gender neutrality? I seriously can't > believe that you used the word "him". What about "her"? Yeah, "her" as in > myse

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re voting

2012-04-16 Thread Adam Jon Richardson
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:42 PM, wrote: > Stas: > > Just b/c there are rarely any women at all that participate on this list, > could we at list maintain a facade of gender neutrality? I seriously can't > believe that you used the word "him". What about "her"? Yeah, "her" as in > myself and e

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re voting

2012-04-16 Thread Adam Harvey
On 17 April 2012 11:42, wrote: > Just b/c there are rarely any women at all that participate on this list, > could we at list maintain a facade of gender neutrality?  I seriously can't > believe that you used the word "him".  What about "her"?  Yeah, "her" as in > myself and every other woman

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re voting

2012-04-16 Thread Sherif Ramadan
> Just b/c there are rarely any women at all that participate on this list, > could we at list maintain a facade of gender neutrality?  I seriously can't > believe that you used the word "him".  What about "her"?  Yeah, "her" as in > myself and every other woman who codes with PHP whether to ear

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting Process (was: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward))

2011-06-06 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
On 2011-06-06, Chad Fulton wrote: > So, I would advocate a "white list" of core devs for formal voting (of > which, for example, I would not be a member). I think this mailing > list has grown sufficiently that "public opinion" can be gauged from > here: everyone can write their opinion without gi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting Process (was: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward))

2011-06-06 Thread Chad Fulton
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:27 PM, dukeofgaming wrote: > > I have a little proposition here. > > I'm not —at least currently— known for any app or framework, but I'd like my > voice to count, that is, if and only if the rest of the community thinks I > make sane arguments that are worth considering.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting Process (was: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward))

2011-06-06 Thread dukeofgaming
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > > > I'd to go with a 60% for language syntax, 50+1 for new exts or sapis. > Other question is who can vote. For one, I like to have external > people being able to vote, like frameworks/apps lead developers as > well as @php.net in general (docs

Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: Voting Process (was: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward))

2011-06-05 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Am 05.06.2011 22:05, schrieb Zeev Suraski: > - There wasn't sufficient time, or nearly any time at all - between when > Brian pulled it off the attic, and when a vote was called. If my proposal is > accepted, there'll have to be at least two weeks between when a clearly > marked [RFC] email hit

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting Process

2011-06-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:16 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> The way I see it, we can't employ the voting part of this RFC unless >> we can agree on rules on how this voting works;  It's fine that we >> don't decide exactly how we're going to do it.  But then, it means >> that we don't get to do it un

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-05 Thread David Soria Parra
On 2011-06-05, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Philip Olson wrote: > >>> I'd to say that I'm very happy to finally see such discussions >>> happening, let sort the base (99% is done by our existing RFC about >>> release process, let adopt it already!) and move on with 5.4. >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Philip Olson wrote: >> I'd to say that I'm very happy to finally see such discussions >> happening, let sort the base (99% is done by our existing RFC about >> release process, let adopt it already!) and move on with 5.4. > > > This is a prime example of what we're

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 17:20, Pierre Joye wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> >> >>> Some of you may have followed the twitter conversation that Pierre and I >>> had at the end of last week;  In my opinion, t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-05 Thread Philip Olson
On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > I'd to say that I'm very happy to finally see such discussions > happening, let sort the base (99% is done by our existing RFC about > release process, let adopt it already!) and move on with 5.4. This is a prime example of what we're talking abo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-05 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 17:20, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > >> Some of you may have followed the twitter conversation that Pierre and I had >> at the end of last week;  In my opinion, this dry (or partially wet) run >> that we had in the last few d

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Some of you may have followed the twitter conversation that Pierre and I had > at the end of last week;  In my opinion, this dry (or partially wet) run that > we had in the last few days of a voting process pointed to several > deficiencie

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-05 Thread Zeev Suraski
> On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Stas Malyshev > wrote: > > > >> [VOTE] is a good idea, let's make it [VOTE]. > >> > >>> There is no plugin used for it yet, and that's my problem with it. > >> > >> Well, votes aren't announced yet either :)

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-05 Thread John Coggeshall
On Jun 3, 2011, at 4:43 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: - a call to vote is easily drowned out on the ML with all the noise I read the same ML as you do :) Using threaded email client it is very easy to separate new threads and see calls for votes. That is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-04 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! How does it work? Do you need write permission to the page it is located on, or is it enough to have login? Login's enough. There is also an ability to designate admins (see the docs) which can edit the votes, but I'm not sure if it's needed for user-based vote. How do you differentia

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-04 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 19:58, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> Please keep them in the wiki as we planed to do. THere are plugins and >> it is very easy to manage, allows per section voting etc. > > I've installed voting plugin, see description here: > > http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:doodle2 > > a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-04 Thread Pierre Joye
right, that's the one I was willing to install as well, great that you did it! Thanks :) On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> Please keep them in the wiki as we planed to do. THere are plugins and >> it is very easy to manage, allows per section voting etc. > > I've ins

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-04 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! Please keep them in the wiki as we planed to do. THere are plugins and it is very easy to manage, allows per section voting etc. I've installed voting plugin, see description here: http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:doodle2 and example how it looks here at the end (login required to vote):

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-04 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Philip, On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Philip Olson wrote: >  - RFC: Request For Comments Thanks for the reminder. But RFC got approved at some point as well. See the numerous W3C RFCs for some known examples. > And while doing so, not revert to a vote (RFV?) simply because discussing a >

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-04 Thread John Crenshaw
04, 2011 9:30 AM To: Pierre Joye Cc: Stas Malyshev; Derick Rethans; PHP Internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward) On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > &g

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-04 Thread Philip Olson
On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:07 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > >> [VOTE] is a good idea, let's make it [VOTE]. >> >>> There is no plugin used for it yet, and that's my problem with it. >> >> Well, votes aren't announced yet either :) I'll try to get it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-04 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > [VOTE] is a good idea, let's make it [VOTE]. > >> There is no plugin used for it yet, and that's my problem with it. > > Well, votes aren't announced yet either :) I'll try to get it set up ASAP > and see how it works, before announcing the v

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-03 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! That is subjective. And even with a threaded client, if there are 80+ new messages then the call for vote is drowned out. *Requiring* There was never 80+ new messages on different topics on the list. There are 3-4 topics max, if you not count commit messages. Each of them can contain doz

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-03 Thread Drak
Have you guys considered doodle.com? I think you are all stressing way too much over the voting process. When a vote is closed you can then transfer the decision to the RFC. Drak On 3 June 2011 14:12, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > > On Fri, 3 J

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-03 Thread Pierre Joye
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: > >> > Voting on the wiki? Yuck. If you want participation, do it here on the >> > mailinglist and store the record in the wiki. If all "votes" are showing >> >> Voting on ML is messy and means somebo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Voting does not belong on the wiki! (Was: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 moving forward)

2011-06-03 Thread Michael Shadle
Why doesnt voting happen using a poll/voting engine. Written in (gasp) PHP! (although soon PJSON) On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> Voting on the wiki? Yuck. If you want participation, do it here on the >> mailinglist and store the record in the wiki. If all "votes"

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: voting

2008-01-12 Thread David Coallier
On Jan 12, 2008 9:57 AM, Gregory Beaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I think its painfully obvious that a system to manage the voting is > > needed. Like I said, ideally it should also have an email interface. > > People should be able to vote from +1 to -1