On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 07:26, Benjamin Eberlei wrote:
> This is like the 80% use-case of threading, Multiple HTTP requests, multiple
> long running SQL queries. An API like parallel would allow each and everyone
> of us to make controllers faster today without a large effort.
>
>
I think an exp
Hi Benjamin,
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 2:26 PM Benjamin Eberlei
> Async.io is used for scalability In languages with entirely different
> architectures than PHP.
>
> Node.js isn't well suited to monolithic applications such as Wordpress,
> Magento and the fast amount of applicatoins that people are b
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 11:05 PM Zeev Suraski wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 7:27 PM Levi Morrison wrote:
>
> > To all internals, but especially to Zeev and Dmitry,
> >
> > Having a JIT which does not support ZTS is a bit short-sighted.
>
>
> I don't think anybody's advocating for not having Z
Good morning,
Again a long reply from me, sorry :)
There are a few things I would like to clarify from my perspective.On
Windows, historically (for years), the only usable webserver was
Apache. And the only way to work with it for years as well was
mod_php. Given the Apache's design, it requires
On Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:33:27 PM CST Zeev Suraski wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 7:57 PM Larry Garfield
>
> wrote:
> > Data point: At Platform.sh (web host), we've been running ZTS builds of
> > 7.1,
> > 7.2, and 7.3 exclusively for a while now. We don't even offer non-ZTS
> > version
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 7:57 PM Larry Garfield
wrote:
> Data point: At Platform.sh (web host), we've been running ZTS builds of
> 7.1,
> 7.2, and 7.3 exclusively for a while now. We don't even offer non-ZTS
> versions of those releases.
I presume you haven't been using a threaded Web server mo
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 7:27 PM Levi Morrison wrote:
> To all internals, but especially to Zeev and Dmitry,
>
> Having a JIT which does not support ZTS is a bit short-sighted.
I don't think anybody's advocating for not having ZTS support for JIT. I
am questioning the portof the absence of ZTS
On Thursday, February 14, 2019 9:59:18 AM CST Rowan Collins wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:47, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> > On 14.02.2019 at 12:56, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watkins wrote:
> > >> The ZTS build is very commonly used in Windows today
> > >
To all internals, but especially to Zeev and Dmitry,
Having a JIT which does not support ZTS is a bit short-sighted. Think
about it. You want to add a JIT partly so that PHP will be better at
non-web, CPU intensive tasks. If the JIT is successful, eventually you
will want parallelism in that domai
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 6:13 PM Joe Watkins wrote:
> EXACTLY
>
> Sorry I didn't answer in full, but I've been listening to people say its
> not important for so long, I'm pretty tired of it by now.
>
Joe, all,
Again, ISAPI was super important until one day, it wasn't. If the main
reason ZTS is
EXACTLY
Sorry I didn't answer in full, but I've been listening to people say its
not important for so long, I'm pretty tired of it by now.
We are talking about merging a thing that has the ability to make some
maths faster, at huge cost to the project, in two days I wrote a new
extension called p
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 5:59 PM Rowan Collins
wrote:
> All that being said, it would be nice if ZTS became more mainstream, so
> more people had access to userland threading / parallel processing
> extensions.
I think the most promising parallel processing paradigms today are based on
asynchron
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:47, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 14.02.2019 at 12:56, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watkins wrote:
> >
> >> The ZTS build is very commonly used in Windows today
> >
> > Any idea why?
>
> windows.php.net:
>
> | With Apache you have to
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 5:47 PM Christoph M. Becker
wrote:
> On 14.02.2019 at 12:56, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watkins wrote:
> >
> >> The ZTS build is very commonly used in Windows today
> >
> > Any idea why?
>
> windows.php.net:
>
> | With Apache you have t
On 14.02.2019 at 12:56, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watkins wrote:
>
>> The ZTS build is very commonly used in Windows today
>
> Any idea why?
windows.php.net:
| With Apache you have to use the Thread Safe (TS) versions of PHP.
--
Christoph M. Becker
--
PHP
Packages such as xampp, which are very widely used, bundle a thread safe
interpreter.
It's a fact that ZTS is important on Windows.
Cheers
Joe
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 16:22, Rowan Collins wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 11:57, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watk
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 5:22 PM Rowan Collins
wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 11:57, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watkins wrote:
> >
> > > The ZTS build is very commonly used in Windows today
> > >
> >
> > Any idea why?
> >
>
>
> https://windows.php.net/ curren
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 11:57, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watkins wrote:
>
> > The ZTS build is very commonly used in Windows today
> >
>
> Any idea why?
>
https://windows.php.net/ currently recommends using an NTS build with
FastCGI, but there is (or was?) also
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:26 AM Joe Watkins wrote:
> The ZTS build is very commonly used in Windows today
>
Any idea why?
Zeev
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