Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-27 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > I did mean would — one issue with much of our internationalisation > code is that it's in extensions (intl, iconv, mbstring) that are > inconsistently deployed by shared hosting providers. Having some basic Shared hosting providers are completely capable of building their PHP offerings the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-27 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Adam! On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Adam Harvey wrote: > On 26 May 2013 21:05, Stas Malyshev wrote: >> >>> I agree with Nikita — I'm not against adding more Unicode/charset >>> handling functions if they make sense (and I haven't looked at the >>> code for this particular proposal yet), pa

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-27 Thread Adam Harvey
On 26 May 2013 21:05, Stas Malyshev wrote: > >> I agree with Nikita — I'm not against adding more Unicode/charset >> handling functions if they make sense (and I haven't looked at the >> code for this particular proposal yet), particularly if they'd be part >> of a default build, but enough water

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-27 Thread Nicolas Grekas
Btw, I hit a bug on grapheme_substr() that got no attention: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=62759 There is also https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61860 that waits for a fix. Nicolas On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi! > > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Rouven Weßling

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-26 Thread Pierre Joye
hi! On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Rouven Weßling wrote: > Hi Internals! > > First let me introduce myself, my name is Rouven Weßling, I'm a student at > RWTH Aachen University and I'm one of the maintainers of the Joomla! > Framework (née Platform). I've been following the internals list for

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-26 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > I agree with Nikita — I'm not against adding more Unicode/charset > handling functions if they make sense (and I haven't looked at the > code for this particular proposal yet), particularly if they'd be part > of a default build, but enough water has hopefully passed under the Did you mean

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-24 Thread Adam Harvey
On 24 May 2013 08:26, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: >> We already have a lot of functions for multibyte string handling. Let me >> list a few: >> >> * The str* functions. Most of them are safe for usage with UTF8. >> Exceptions are basically everythi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-24 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Rouven Weßling >wrote: > > > Hi Internals! > > > > First let me introduce myself, my name is Rouven Weßling, I'm a student > at > > RWTH Aachen University and I'm one of the maintainers of the Joomla! > > Fra

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-24 Thread Nikita Popov
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Rouven Weßling wrote: > Hi Internals! > > First let me introduce myself, my name is Rouven Weßling, I'm a student at > RWTH Aachen University and I'm one of the maintainers of the Joomla! > Framework (née Platform). I've been following the internals list for a few

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for better UTF-8 handling

2013-05-23 Thread Martin Keckeis
Hello Rouven, the lack of "good" UTF-8 support is a long topic in PHP and improvement (at least i think) are very welcome at this place! Before I write an RFC I'd like to get some feedback what you think about > adding the following functions to PHP 5.6 (possibly more to follow): > utf8_is_valid,