RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 19:49 05/04/2003, Philip Olson wrote: > Again: This point of view seems to clash with the vision that Stig and > some others over at pear-dev had about PECL. Anyways, I don't really > care about PECL much at the moment and thus won't invest to much energy > in this discussion ;-). The vision is

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-05 Thread Philip Olson
> Again: This point of view seems to clash with the vision that Stig and > some others over at pear-dev had about PECL. Anyways, I don't really > care about PECL much at the moment and thus won't invest to much energy > in this discussion ;-). The vision is different for everyone it seems. Last I

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Martin Jansen
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 19:35, Sterling Hughes wrote: > On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 12:42, Martin Jansen wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 19:15, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 12:26, Martin Jansen wrote: > > > > "In PECL all code has to follow the PHP coding standards." > > > > (http://

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Joseph Tate
oseph > -Original Message- > From: Tom Sommer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits > > > On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:11:16 -0500, Joseph Tate wrote: > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Tom Sommer
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:11:16 -0500, Joseph Tate wrote: > How about documenting an astyle (insert stylizing app of choice here) line > in CODING_STANDARDS that people can run on their code to make it conform to > said standards. What astyle would you suggest? -- Tom Sommer, Denmark www.tsn.dk - w

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Sascha Schumann
> The difference between 'pushing' and 'encouraging' is tought in > management school. The semantical difference is NULL. Derick, you need to realize that you lack authority. Someone without authority cannot push anything what so ever. Or to put it differently: A bully pushes.

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > I'm not setting any rules, I'm just trying to push ways of effective > > collaboration due to the adoption of the same standards for everbody. > > You are in no position to push anything. > > Try 'encouraging' or 'convincing' the next time.

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> Also developing PHP extensions is much different than developing PHP. > In PHP extensions the code itself is much more encapsulated, in PECL > individual package development is encapsulated. As long as the code > follows the php naming conventions (for exported functions), it can > interact nic

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 12:42, Martin Jansen wrote: > On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 19:15, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 12:26, Martin Jansen wrote: > > > "In PECL all code has to follow the PHP coding standards." > > > (http://pear.php.net/manual/en/developers.meaning.php) > > > > > > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I'm not setting any rules, I'm just trying to push ways of effective > collaboration due to the adoption of the same standards for everbody. You are in no position to push anything. Try 'encouraging' or 'convincing' the next time. - Sascha -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Developme

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: > Derick, your attempts at setting rules are misguided. I'm not setting any rules, I'm just trying to push ways of effective collaboration due to the adoption of the same standards for everbody. Derick -- "

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Martin Jansen
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 19:15, Sterling Hughes wrote: > On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 12:26, Martin Jansen wrote: > > "In PECL all code has to follow the PHP coding standards." > > (http://pear.php.net/manual/en/developers.meaning.php) > > > > Then the manual is wrong. Oh, come on: You should have come

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 12:26, Martin Jansen wrote: > On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 18:26, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > No, in PEAR. In PECL your code can look however it likes, at least > > that's my understanding. > > The manual states it differently: > > "In PECL all code has to follow the PHP coding sta

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Martin Jansen
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 18:26, Sterling Hughes wrote: > No, in PEAR. In PECL your code can look however it likes, at least > that's my understanding. The manual states it differently: "In PECL all code has to follow the PHP coding standards." (http://pear.php.net/manual/en/developers.meaning.php)

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Sascha Schumann
Derick, your attempts at setting rules are misguided. - Sascha -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: > I barked at Derick for trying to police me with his docref > pet stuff. 1. It's not my stuff 2. I'm not particulairy fond of it either, but that doesn't mean I don't use it in my code for the PHP project.You may object or not, but if it

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Joseph Tate
erling Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:45 AM > To: Sascha Schumann > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits > > > On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 11:54, Sascha Schumann wrote: > > Sterling, you are m

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Moriyoshi Koizumi
Sterling Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahh, well, you should follow the coding standards regardless, or rather > change them. I've just removed docref and assert bogusness from the > files, so, in that case, you are no longer in violation. (you should > throw a party. ;-) Hmm, I partly a

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 11:54, Sascha Schumann wrote: > Sterling, you are missing some important points here. > > > Geeze Luise, its not that hard, and the coding standards are there for a > > (good) reason. If you object to some of the standards, discuss that, > > If you look at my code,

Re: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Sascha Schumann
Sterling, you are missing some important points here. > Geeze Luise, its not that hard, and the coding standards are there for a > (good) reason. If you object to some of the standards, discuss that, If you look at my code, 99% of it follows the coding styles, because I've adopted th

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 11:45, Lukas Smith wrote: > > From: Sterling Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 6:09 PM > > > Geeze Luise, its not that hard, and the coding standards are there for > a > > (good) reason. If you object to some of the standards, discuss that, >

RE: [PHP-DEV] If you want to avoid annoying CS commits

2003-04-04 Thread Lukas Smith
> From: Sterling Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 6:09 PM > Geeze Luise, its not that hard, and the coding standards are there for a > (good) reason. If you object to some of the standards, discuss that, > but the source code should follow a unified style: we have a