Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: > The issue in my mind is one of portability. It would be nice, as a > developer working in PHP, to be able to rely on functionality like > encryption (and other unrelated goodies) being available on Joe User's > $5/month webhost who don't go aro

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: > Perhaps you're not seeing my point, or perhaps you don't care about > users? I speak as a developer, not as some guy with a crap webhost, and > my concern is that I would like to write applications that many people > can run, not just those who

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Christian Schneider wrote: > I'm sure if there's a major uproar about an extension being mandatory > for the next killer application then they'll reconsider. But for now it > seems that encryption functionality a la mcrypt hasn't been in high > enough demand. Even if it was, I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Matthew Charles Kavanagh
Christian Schneider wrote: Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: Perhaps you're not seeing my point, or perhaps you don't care about users? I speak as a developer, not as some guy with a crap webhost, and So according to you every single extension should be put bundled and installed by default? If no

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Christian Schneider
Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: Perhaps you're not seeing my point, or perhaps you don't care about users? I speak as a developer, not as some guy with a crap webhost, and So according to you every single extension should be put bundled and installed by default? If not, then someone has to draw

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Matthew Charles Kavanagh
Derick Rethans wrote: On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: The issue in my mind is one of portability. It would be nice, as a developer working in PHP, to be able to rely on functionality like encryption (and other unrelated goodies) being available on Joe User's $5/month webhost who

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Matthew Charles Kavanagh
(earlier message, sending to list) Derick Rethans wrote: This is definitely not planned - we rather not bundle any library, and definitely not an LGPL library. Reinventing the wheel by providing encryption routines in PHP does not make sense really. PHP is meant to be a glue to provide access to li

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: > Derick Rethans wrote: > > This is definitely not planned - we rather not bundle any library, and > > definitely not an LGPL library. > > > > Reinventing the wheel by providing encryption routines in PHP does not > > make sense really. PHP is me

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Mark Evans wrote: > Since the mcrypt library is released under the GPL and php under the > php 3.0 licence I guess the option to integrate the solutions isnt > available so the other option would be for php to include their own > encryption routines. libmcrypt is LGPL, not GPL