Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-06-07 Thread Nikita Popov
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 12:14 AM tyson andre wrote: > Hi Kamil, > > > I have reworked the RFC based on some feedback. The improved RFC now will > > hold 2 votes. One vote to decide whether the behaviour should be > deprecated > > from false, and another from null. > > > > If there are no objection

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-06-05 Thread tyson andre
Hi Kamil, > I have reworked the RFC based on some feedback. The improved RFC now will > hold 2 votes. One vote to decide whether the behaviour should be deprecated > from false, and another from null. > > If there are no objections then I would like to start the votes in a couple > of days. > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-06-05 Thread Mark Randall
On 05/06/2021 20:50, Kamil Tekiela wrote: However, I would still like to hear from you whether you use autovivification from false and/or null in your projects. So far, I was not able to identify when this would be useful in real-life scenarios. As per the RFC: "In PHP 8.1, appending to a vari

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-06-05 Thread Kamil Tekiela
Hi Internals, I have reworked the RFC based on some feedback. The improved RFC now will hold 2 votes. One vote to decide whether the behaviour should be deprecated from false, and another from null. If there are no objections then I would like to start the votes in a couple of days. However, I w

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-05-26 Thread Guilliam Xavier
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:27 PM Dusk wrote: > On May 25, 2021, at 09:23, Kamil Tekiela wrote: > > I'd like to start a discussion on the following RFC > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autovivification_false > > Particularly, I am looking for opinions on whether this behaviour should > be > > left al

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-05-25 Thread Dusk
On May 25, 2021, at 09:23, Kamil Tekiela wrote: > I'd like to start a discussion on the following RFC > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autovivification_false > Particularly, I am looking for opinions on whether this behaviour should be > left alone, should be disabled on false, or should be disabled on

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-05-25 Thread Sara Golemon
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:23 AM Kamil Tekiela wrote: > I'd like to start a discussion on the following RFC > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autovivification_false > Particularly, I am looking for opinions on whether this behaviour should be > left alone, should be disabled on false, or should be disab

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-05-25 Thread Kamil Tekiela
>In any case, the removing of the autovivification behaviour MUST be preceded by a period of deprecation notices. Yeah, obviously. Sorry I didn't make it clear in the RFC. I clarified this now. The goal is to first determine if we should restrict this behaviour or not.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-05-25 Thread Claude Pache
> Le 25 mai 2021 à 18:23, Kamil Tekiela a écrit : > > Hi Internals, > > I'd like to start a discussion on the following RFC > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autovivification_false > Particularly, I am looking for opinions on whether this behaviour should be > left alone, should be disabled on false,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Disable autovivification on false

2021-05-25 Thread Christian Schneider
Am 25.05.2021 um 18:23 schrieb Kamil Tekiela : > I'd like to start a discussion on the following RFC > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/autovivification_false > Particularly, I am looking for opinions on whether this behaviour should be > left alone, should be disabled on false, or should be disabled on nu