Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-19 Thread Daniel Convissor
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:51:23AM +0200, Johannes Schlter wrote: > > Removing magic_quotes would be s great. BUT the issue is > that most users don't know about it. Many applications are more or less > secure due to its existence. The apps aren't fully secure but a few less > vectors.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-17 Thread Pas
On 2010.04.17. 7:39, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Larry Garfieldwrote: On Friday 16 April 2010 05:23:42 am Ferenc Kovacs wrote: I think that the hosting providers will do notice, and either not migrate, or send a mail to their users, warning to check their settings

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-16 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: > On Friday 16 April 2010 05:23:42 am Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > I think that the hosting providers will do notice, and either not > migrate, > > or send a mail to their users, warning to check their settings because if > > they are depending

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-16 Thread Larry Garfield
On Friday 16 April 2010 05:23:42 am Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > I think that the hosting providers will do notice, and either not migrate, > or send a mail to their users, warning to check their settings because if > they are depending on the magic quotes, they will be in danger. > > So I think we don

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-16 Thread Pierrick Charron
+1 to remove magic_quotes from trunk Most of us want to get rid of this feature. I agree with you that some people probably don't know php.ini and magic_quotes but i'm not sure that even if we wait we'll find a better way to tell them about those. People (not all) on shared hosting don't really pa

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-16 Thread Philip Olson
On Apr 16, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 11:43 +0300, Arvids Godjuks wrote: >> You must have been flying somethere in the Andromeda galaxy all this time! >> >> magic_quotes, safe_mode and other stuff was announced depricated now for a >> few years, there is b

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-16 Thread Pierrick Charron
I've added the patch to remove magic quotes from trunk on the RFC. Is there any comments/objection against this patch ? Pierrick 2010/4/8 Kalle Sommer Nielsen : > Hey Everyone > > I've put together a simple RFC[1] that lists features thats been > deprecated in 5.3, someone of them which I propose

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-16 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
2010/4/16 Johannes Schlüter > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 11:43 +0300, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > > You must have been flying somethere in the Andromeda galaxy all this > time! > > > > magic_quotes, safe_mode and other stuff was announced depricated now for > a > > few years, there is big buzz going on ab

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-16 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 11:43 +0300, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > You must have been flying somethere in the Andromeda galaxy all this time! > > magic_quotes, safe_mode and other stuff was announced depricated now for a > few years, there is big buzz going on about it and these features are > allready ma

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-16 Thread Arvids Godjuks
You must have been flying somethere in the Andromeda galaxy all this time! magic_quotes, safe_mode and other stuff was announced depricated now for a few years, there is big buzz going on about it and these features are allready marked as depricated and throw warnings as of 5.3, some even as off 5

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-15 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi, on my previous mail I missed one thing: On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 00:48 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > magic_quotes_* > - Something we have long time been wanted to remove from PHP, I don't > see a big reason to keep those in the next version, even if its going > to be a 5.4, since we alre

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-15 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > safe_mode/register_globals/register_long_arrays/magic_quotes_*/allow_call_time_pass_reference > - Something we have long time been wanted to remove from PHP, I don't > see a big reason to keep those in the next version, even if its going > to be a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-15 Thread Patrick ALLAERT
2010/4/15 Kalle Sommer Nielsen : > Hi Patrick > > 2010/4/15 Patrick ALLAERT : >> Hi! >> >> I think we should also keep an eye on removing dead code. >> Removing the useless: main/mergesort.c for example (Patch in attachment). > > I agree we should remove dead code, like Johannes commit to remove >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-15 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi Patrick 2010/4/15 Patrick ALLAERT : > Hi! > > I think we should also keep an eye on removing dead code. > Removing the useless: main/mergesort.c for example (Patch in attachment). I agree we should remove dead code, like Johannes commit to remove php3_compat.h. As for the mergesort patch, is i

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-15 Thread Patrick ALLAERT
2010/4/9 Kalle Sommer Nielsen : > Hey Everyone > > I've put together a simple RFC[1] that lists features thats been > deprecated in 5.3, someone of them which I propose we remove in the > next version of PHP, depending on the version number. Most of the > features, which is listed below are taken f

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-10 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
2010/4/9 Stanislav Malyshev : > Hi! > >> asp_tags >>  - Proposed to be removed aswell, Tony had a patch for this[5]. > > IIRC last time we discussed it there was no solid reason found to do it and > some reasons not to. Could you remind why would it be useful to do it? > I spend sometime reading a

RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-09 Thread Mike Robinson
Hi, Respectfully, FWIW... > safe_mode/register_globals/register_long_arrays/magic_quotes_*/allow_ca > ll_time_pass_reference +1 > asp_tags > - Proposed to be removed aswell, Tony had a patch for this[5]. -1 No way. While I abhor there use, _many_ people do not. > sql_safe_mode > - Theres c

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-09 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi, On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 00:48 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > session_register/session_is_registered/session_register > - Only needed for register_globals, Hannes removed those in PHP6. regiter_globals should be removed. It still exits, removing these is the logical consequence after remo

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-09 Thread Keisial
Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > enable_dl > - Is this really worth keeping, since dl() was disabled on almost all > SAPIs except for CLI/CGI/Embed? > Although it is not the most widespread use of PHP, people using things like PHP-GTK probably take advantage of it. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runti

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-09 Thread Brian Moon
safe_mode/register_globals/register_long_arrays/magic_quotes_*/allow_call_time_pass_reference - Something we have long time been wanted to remove from PHP, I don't see a big reason to keep those in the next version, even if its going to be a 5.4, since we already removed things like zend.ze1_com

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Removal of deprecated features

2010-04-08 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
Hi! asp_tags - Proposed to be removed aswell, Tony had a patch for this[5]. IIRC last time we discussed it there was no solid reason found to do it and some reasons not to. Could you remind why would it be useful to do it? Class named constructors - A feature thats been marked in the m