Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > One thing is to change from "single vote" to "approval voting" (one can > "aaprove" any of those, sum up, done, one of the best voting systems for > "winner takes it all" things > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting) Multiple ch

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 14:25 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: > > Whereas 50%-1 vote for "Two years, one normal fixes and one security > > fixes only" and "With the PHP 5.5 final release" > > > > Then the winner will be "One year with security fixes only" and "With > > the PHP 5.5 final release" which prob

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > Separating the two questions is "strange" and can lead to unintended > results. They should be combined into one. Example assumption: 50%+1 > vote for "One year with security fixes only" but are split between "With > the next PHP 5.3 rele

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 12:39 +0100, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Clint Priest wrote: > > > Would this 1 or 2 year period begin from release date of 5.3 or as of > > around now/vote? > > See "When should start the EOL period and when should it be announced?" I don't unde

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > > > Would a voting option to tie it to the release of a future PHP version, > > rather than a fixed time interval, be appropriate? > > > Like in end it when 5.x is released? Actually, I wa

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Clint Priest wrote: > Would this 1 or 2 year period begin from release date of 5.3 or as of around > now/vote? See "When should start the EOL period and when should it be announced?" -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org -- P

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Clint Priest
Would this 1 or 2 year period begin from release date of 5.3 or as of around now/vote? -Clint On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > >> Would a voting option to tie it to the release of a future PHP version, >> rather than a fixe

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > Would a voting option to tie it to the release of a future PHP version, > rather than a fixed time interval, be appropriate? Like in end it when 5.x is released? Not sure it helps in anyway, but that's possible already if we choose to begin t

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][discussion] 5.3 EOL

2013-01-08 Thread Kris Craig
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi, > > While the 5.3 RM already unilaterally published some announce about > 5.3 status with the last release, we still have to clearly and openly > decide what is the best road to take. > > Here is the last version of the rfc: > > https://wik