Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-23 Thread G. P. B.
Hello everyone, We've updated the RFC [1] by rewriting it in part and trying to add more details /context and trying to address some other concerns which came up. Hoping for some more feedback before planning on moving this to a vote. Best regards George P. Banyard [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-21 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi Benjamin, pon., 20 kwi 2020 o 14:06 Benjamin Eberlei napisał(a): > Hi Michał, George, > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:29 PM Michał Brzuchalski < > michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi internals, >> >> I hope you're doing well. >> >> I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-21 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi Mike wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 07:29 Mike Schinkel napisał(a): > I have been wondering for a while why PHP does not officially recognize a > \PHP namespace. > > The inconsistency people have mentioned feels like a fair tradeoff for > allowing new core classes to be cleanly-named and easier to unders

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-20 Thread Mike Schinkel
I have been wondering for a while why PHP does not officially recognize a \PHP namespace. The inconsistency people have mentioned feels like a fair tradeoff for allowing new core classes to be cleanly-named and easier to understand. And a \PHP namespace would allow RFCs to never need worry abou

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-20 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
Hi Michał, George, On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:29 PM Michał Brzuchalski < michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi internals, > > I hope you're doing well. > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-16 Thread Rowan Tommins
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 20:54, G. P. B. wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 19:24, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > We already have PHP language features relying on classes in the root > > namespace (Closure, Throwable, ArrayAccess, etc) so the point Marcio > > makes about inconsistency is nonetheless valid

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 22:27, Derick Rethans wrote: > On 15 April 2020 20:36:25 BST, "G. P. B." > wrote: > >On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 15:51, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > >> > >> > Hi internals, > >> > > >> > I hope you're doing well. > >> > > >> >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Derick Rethans
On 15 April 2020 20:36:25 BST, "G. P. B." wrote: >On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 15:51, Derick Rethans wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: >> >> > Hi internals, >> > >> > I hope you're doing well. >> > >> > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. >> > The

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 19:24, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi, > > Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > Hi Marcio, > > > > śr., 15 kwi 2020 o 18:39 Marcio Almada > napisał(a): > > > >> Even though I'm fond to the idea of languages having the official > >> stdlib contained > >> into a single space, there seem

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 18:39, Marcio Almada wrote: > > > > Hi internals, > > > > I hope you're doing well. > > > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > > purpose > > is nothing more like to a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 15:51, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > > Hi internals, > > > > I hope you're doing well. > > > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard an

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Andrea Faulds
Hi, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: Hi Marcio, śr., 15 kwi 2020 o 18:39 Marcio Almada napisał(a): Even though I'm fond to the idea of languages having the official stdlib contained into a single space, there seems to be no practicality on a \PHP namespace usage at this point IMMO. We would be in

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi Derick, śr., 15 kwi 2020 o 15:51 Derick Rethans napisał(a): > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > > Hi internals, > > > > I hope you're doing well. > > > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > > The RFC is authored by me together with George Pete

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
Hi Marcio, śr., 15 kwi 2020 o 18:39 Marcio Almada napisał(a): > > > > Hi internals, > > > > I hope you're doing well. > > > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > > purpose > > is nothing mo

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Marcio Almada
> > Hi internals, > > I hope you're doing well. > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > purpose > is nothing more like to allow the use of PHP Namespace in the core. > > The RFC is described at

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > Hi internals, > > I hope you're doing well. > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > purpose > is nothing more like to allow the use of PHP Nam

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core

2020-04-15 Thread G. P. B.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 14:29, Michał Brzuchalski < michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi internals, > > I hope you're doing well. > > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion. > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's > purpose > is nothin