Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Andi Gutmans
Hi Ilia, I think it's hard to define ahead of time, but usually I prefer allowing non-BC breaking and non-infrastructure changes, for example, a new function, a new optional parameter to a function, some minor functionality... If it's a change in the infrastructure of PHP, then chances are that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Lukas Smith
Wez Furlong wrote: On 8/9/05, Pierre-Alain Joye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 5.x - small additions (in my case, gd updates and merge, xmlwriter) This is what PECL is for. We're trying to move stuff out of the core so that these kinds of updates are easier for everyone to work on and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Andrei Zmievski
Bitch, where are my page views? -Andrei On Aug 9, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Darrell Brogdon wrote: I think by "client(s)" you mean JOHNS (Justified Output with Heuristic Notifications Server). On Aug 9, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Jessie Hernandez wrote: I am not familiar with PIMP, but I would not get it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Wez Furlong
On 8/9/05, Pierre-Alain Joye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 5.x - small additions (in my case, gd updates and merge, > xmlwriter) This is what PECL is for. We're trying to move stuff out of the core so that these kinds of updates are easier for everyone to work on and use. --Wez. -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Darrell Brogdon
I think by "client(s)" you mean JOHNS (Justified Output with Heuristic Notifications Server). On Aug 9, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Jessie Hernandez wrote: I am not familiar with PIMP, but I would not get it in 6.0 until we have HOES (HTML Output Extension Server) complete. Then we can start on the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Jessie Hernandez
I am not familiar with PIMP, but I would not get it in 6.0 until we have HOES (HTML Output Extension Server) complete. Then we can start on the client(s) for 6.1 :-). -- Jessie "David Zülke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 6.0 - to define, for now we have two c

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
Derick Rethans wrote: > I see it as: > 4.4 - no new features, no new additions. Just bugfixes. > 5.1 - no new major features, just smaller additions. > 6.0 - brand new experimental stuff. This breakdown looks good, although it'd be nice to quantify just what kind of "smaller additions" are accept

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: > > If we want to include xmlwriter at all in the > > default distribution is another discussion. (So that should go to > > another thread IMO). > > The discussion is already done and we agreed. It did not make it in > 5.1 for various reasons. I only s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Pierre-Alain Joye
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:02:47 +0200 (CEST) Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 12:47:50 +0200 (CEST) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: > > > > > > > But

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 12:47:50 +0200 (CEST) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: > > > > > But I have some about what we will do in php 5.x (without > > > unicode, namespace), and 6.0. > > > >

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread David Zülke
> 6.0 - to define, for now we have two candidates, > unicode for sure, namespace to be discussed/approved/ > whatever How 'bout PIMP for 6.0, Pierre? *hint hint* ;) - David -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Pierre-Alain Joye
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 12:47:50 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote: > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: > > > But I have some about what we will do in php 5.x (without > > unicode, namespace), and 6.0. > > > > I like to see once that we clearly and loudly define what we

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.5 or 6.0

2005-08-09 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: > But I have some about what we will do in php 5.x (without unicode, > namespace), and 6.0. > > I like to see once that we clearly and loudly define what we want > in or not. So I may waste less time than before. I see it as: 4.4 - no new features, no