Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-10 Thread David Wang
It's been about 3 days since the last comment on the patch itself on this thread and nearly a week since the patch was submitted for comment. Until a patch is committed, I can't publish a patch for the GC, and until that's published, there's really nothing to debate about yet. :) I can't commit a

Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-09 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
On 9/8/07, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And yes, if it turns out > to be 10% slower, a lot of sites are going to want to run without it. Sad, I see you have lost the notion about who are the vast mayority of your users. Facebook or any top site that requires extreme performance rep

Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-08 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Antony Dovgal wrote: > On 08.09.2007 21:31, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> Facebook is quite active in APC development. > > I'm glad for APC, but this is a separate project (or a sub-project, whatever). > >> And yes, if it turns out to be 10% slower, a lot of sites are going to want >> to run withou

Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-08 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 08.09.2007 21:31, Andi Gutmans wrote: > Uhm I didn't mean to make this about one company or another (it was just an > example, > and btw, I think they've contributed to APC :) and this discussion is going > very much > of track. I guess you either didn't understand what I was saying or don't

Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-08 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 08.09.2007 21:31, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Facebook is quite active in APC development. I'm glad for APC, but this is a separate project (or a sub-project, whatever). > And yes, if it turns out to be 10% slower, a lot of sites are going to want > to run without it. Right, but saying that we

Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-08 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Antony Dovgal wrote: > On 08.09.2007 19:34, Andi Gutmans wrote: >> When we all get a copy of the patch and get a chance to test it seriously >> we'll know more. >> I'm all in favor of having GC and very enthusiastic about this coming about >> but I doubt you can >> call it well enough tested. Wh

RE: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-08 Thread Andi Gutmans
#x27;re running on empty... Andi > -Original Message- > From: Antony Dovgal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 9:32 AM > To: Andi Gutmans > Cc: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and > is_

Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-08 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 08.09.2007 19:34, Andi Gutmans wrote: > When we all get a copy of the patch and get a chance to test it seriously > we'll know more. > I'm all in favor of having GC and very enthusiastic about this coming about > but I doubt you can > call it well enough tested. When we made memory manager ch

FW: [PHP-DEV] Patch for macros for tracking refcount and is_ref

2007-09-08 Thread Andi Gutmans
When we all get a copy of the patch and get a chance to test it seriously we'll know more. I'm all in favor of having GC and very enthusiastic about this coming about but I doubt you can call it well enough tested. When we made memory manager changes in the past there were bugs which were only f