Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-26 Thread Lukas Smith
Zeev Suraski wrote: Umm, that's not exactly an option, not before 5.1 proves itself stable (as far as architecture goes - the changes between 5.0 and 5.1 are as substantial as the changes between 4.x and 5.0 were). PHP 5.0 is deployed on roughly 5% of the userbase, including most of the new u

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Andi Gutmans
Likelihood is that we will have to release new versions of PHP 5.0 due to security issues. That said, I don't think we need to maintain it far beyond that unless there's something exceptional. Andi -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.ne

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:44 23/08/2005, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: I agree 4.4.x will live a long time due to the installed base and BC problems going from 4 to 5. But I think 5.0 can go away once we get a couple of releases into 5.1.x. The 5.0 installed base is small and the 5.0 to 5.1 migration is not difficult. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 14:05 23/08/2005, Edin Kadribasic wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: > Look, I take no joy at committing to 4 branches any more than anybody > else, but let's be realistic here. The branch isn't going anywhere, and > 5.0, which was the best PHP version we offered as of mid 2004, will have > to be sup

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Edin Kadribasic
Zeev Suraski wrote: > Look, I take no joy at committing to 4 branches any more than anybody > else, but let's be realistic here. The branch isn't going anywhere, and > 5.0, which was the best PHP version we offered as of mid 2004, will have > to be supported for critical fixes for quite some time.

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Look, I take no joy at committing to 4 branches any more than anybody else, > but let's be realistic here. The branch isn't going anywhere, and 5.0, which > was the best PHP version we offered as of mid 2004, will have to be supported > for critical fixe

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:00 23/08/2005, Derick Rethans wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Zeev Suraski wrote: > At 01:23 23/08/2005, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >Greg Beaver wrote: > > > I just synced php-src/pear (PHP_5_0/PHP_5_1/PHP_4_4) with pear-core > > > (PEAR_1_3). May god bring the day when this is no longer necessa

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Lester Caine wrote: > People are switching to PHP4.4 from PHP4.3 and complaining about broken code - Yes, they should be, as *their* code was broken. Derick -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
Derick Rethans wrote: As for PHP 4.x I would expect that one to end sometimes in the first part of next year. Heh, no way :) It would be nice if updates to PHP4 tree did not introduce changes that require all backwards compatible PHP5 code to be re-tested with PHP4 and changes made! People

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Zeev Suraski wrote: > At 01:23 23/08/2005, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >> Greg Beaver wrote: >> > I just synced php-src/pear (PHP_5_0/PHP_5_1/PHP_4_4) with pear-core >> > (PEAR_1_3). May god bring the day when this is no longer necessary >> > sooner rather than later. >> >> We'll get there. But we c

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Lukas Smith wrote: > As for PHP 4.x I would expect that one to end sometimes in the first > part of next year. Heh, no way :) regards, Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Zeev Suraski wrote: > At 01:23 23/08/2005, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >Greg Beaver wrote: > > > I just synced php-src/pear (PHP_5_0/PHP_5_1/PHP_4_4) with pear-core > > > (PEAR_1_3). May god bring the day when this is no longer necessary > > > sooner rather than later. > > > >We'

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Lukas Smith
Zeev Suraski wrote: At 01:23 23/08/2005, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Greg Beaver wrote: > I just synced php-src/pear (PHP_5_0/PHP_5_1/PHP_4_4) with pear-core > (PEAR_1_3). May god bring the day when this is no longer necessary > sooner rather than later. We'll get there. But we can't kill the 5.0

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 01:23 23/08/2005, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Greg Beaver wrote: > I just synced php-src/pear (PHP_5_0/PHP_5_1/PHP_4_4) with pear-core > (PEAR_1_3). May god bring the day when this is no longer necessary > sooner rather than later. We'll get there. But we can't kill the 5.0 tree until we have a 5

Re: [PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-22 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Greg Beaver wrote: > I just synced php-src/pear (PHP_5_0/PHP_5_1/PHP_4_4) with pear-core > (PEAR_1_3). May god bring the day when this is no longer necessary > sooner rather than later. We'll get there. But we can't kill the 5.0 tree until we have a 5.1 release. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP

[PHP-DEV] sync complete

2005-08-22 Thread Greg Beaver
Hi, I just synced php-src/pear (PHP_5_0/PHP_5_1/PHP_4_4) with pear-core (PEAR_1_3). May god bring the day when this is no longer necessary sooner rather than later. Greg -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php