Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-26 Thread Georg Richter
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 23:28, Tim Parkin wrote: > I would just like to know what the arguments regarding the bundling of > postgres are. a) the Library has to be bundled too b) Postgres doesn't run/compile on all platforms (e.g. Windows) Regards Georg -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Developm

RE: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Tim Parkin
Zeev and Derick said > Lots of sane comments Thanks very much for the quick replies... I think the way forward for most people will be to accept that cheap shared hosting environments are only suitable for basic web solutions. Virtual hosting is 'very' cheap now and if someone wants a (more compl

RE: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:56 25/06/2003, Tim Parkin wrote: >At 00:20 25/06/2003, Marcus Börger wrote: >>That discussion is mostly non public and will not become public until we can >>find a consensus/solution togeter with MySQL on LinuxTag during july. > >That implies that this discussion exists; It doesn't; We're n

RE: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Tim Parkin wrote: > 1) Will MySQL be included again - I presume this will probably be so, > dependant on MySQL AB. No, we will not re-bundle the client libraries anymore. (Even if they have a good exception we can not bundle GPL'ed libraries). > 2) Will any consideration of

RE: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Tim Parkin
>At 00:20 25/06/2003, Marcus Börger wrote: >>That discussion is mostly non public and will not become public until we can >>find a consensus/solution togeter with MySQL on LinuxTag during july. > >That implies that this discussion exists; It doesn't; We're not >discussing the addition of Postgre

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-25 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:20 25/06/2003, Marcus Börger wrote: TP> Zeev, TP> Could you please point me to the recent discussion that takes into TP> account the progress of Postgres and the change in licensing of MySQL That discussion is mostly non public and will not become public until we can find a consensus/solutio

RE: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-24 Thread Tim Parkin
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Tim Parkin wrote: >> Could you please point me to the recent discussion that takes into >> account the progress of Postgres and the change in licensing of MySQL > >There isn't a discussion on that topic per say, but there are plenty on >why we do(n't) want to bundle new option

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-24 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Tim, Tuesday, June 24, 2003, 10:55:07 PM, you wrote: >> I suggest we don't open this discussion again. The archives are full TP> of >> past discussions. We'll continue with the status-quo barring major, TP> tiring >> discussions to change it. TP> Zeev, TP> Could you please point me t

RE: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-24 Thread Dan Kalowsky
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Tim Parkin wrote: > Could you please point me to the recent discussion that takes into > account the progress of Postgres and the change in licensing of MySQL There isn't a discussion on that topic per say, but there are plenty on why we do(n't) want to bundle new options wit

RE: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-24 Thread Tim Parkin
> I suggest we don't open this discussion again. The archives are full of > past discussions. We'll continue with the status-quo barring major, tiring > discussions to change it. Zeev, Could you please point me to the recent discussion that takes into account the progress of Postgres and the

RE: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-24 Thread Zeev Suraski
I suggest we don't open this discussion again. The archives are full of past discussions. We'll continue with the status-quo barring major, tiring discussions to change it. Zeev At 09:50 24/06/2003, James Cox wrote: > > Since there's been a lot of talk about disabling mysql by > default (and

Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-23 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Chris wrote: > Since there's been a lot of talk about disabling mysql by default (and > having another option available), the PostgreSQL people are pretty excited > about this and are keen to see what can be done about getting postgres > enabled by default instead. > > Wha

RE: [PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-23 Thread James Cox
> > Since there's been a lot of talk about disabling mysql by > default (and > having another option available), the PostgreSQL people are > pretty excited > about this and are keen to see what can be done about getting > postgres > enabled by default instead. > I certainly don't speak fo

[PHP-DEV] enabling postgresql by default

2003-06-23 Thread Chris
All, Since there's been a lot of talk about disabling mysql by default (and having another option available), the PostgreSQL people are pretty excited about this and are keen to see what can be done about getting postgres enabled by default instead. What do people think about this? How can we