Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-24 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi Johannes 2017-07-24 20:10 GMT+02:00 Johannes Schlüter : > With this very specific item we need to make sure the server actually > has pdo_mysql enabled. I currently have no access and assume it does. The bug tracker provides an "admin" interface which have a phpinfo() page[1], and yes bugs.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-24 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Mo, 2017-07-24 at 11:51 +0200, Niklas Keller wrote: > It's unmaintained code, nobody wants to touch it. Any attempt to > improve anything doesn't go anywhere, because there are too many > people saying the current state is fine. > > See https://github.com/php/web-bugs/pull/26 for an example. F

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-24 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi Niklas 2017-07-24 11:51 GMT+02:00 Niklas Keller : > It's unmaintained code, nobody wants to touch it. Any attempt to improve > anything doesn't go anywhere, because there are too many people saying the > current state is fine. I doubt the fact that because its written this way is making no one

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-24 Thread Niklas Keller
2017-07-24 10:15 GMT+02:00 Kalle Sommer Nielsen : > Hi Johannes > > 2017-07-24 0:03 GMT+02:00 Johannes Schlüter > > It is also good for the PHP ecosystem at large to show we're using > > libraries, where it makes sense. If we use a variety we're also not > > favoring single ones :) > > As much as

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-24 Thread Mathias Grimm
Thanks all for the comments. While I understand the motivations & reasons I think I would prefer not to help in this specific case. Nothing wrong with the approach but different then what I was expecting to spend my free time on. I hope everything goes ok. Count on me for further improvements if

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-24 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi Johannes 2017-07-24 0:03 GMT+02:00 Johannes Schlüter > It is also good for the PHP ecosystem at large to show we're using > libraries, where it makes sense. If we use a variety we're also not > favoring single ones :) As much as I agree with that, I do not see a big thing that using a library

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-23 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Fr, 2017-07-21 at 18:12 +0200, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > > I would like to come up with a basic MVP that we could iterate > > until at > > least someone is happy :) > > For the MVP my idea is to keep functionality exactly the same as > > introducing new features will make us not ship it ever

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-21 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi Mathias 2017-07-21 0:39 GMT+02:00 Mathias Grimm : > Do we have a pre-approved list of libs that we could use? > For example phpunit. I can't imagine doing it without using that. > What licenses are approved? > MIT, BSD? Most functionality that a bug tracker should do, can and imho should be im

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Mathias Grimm
Do we have a pre-approved list of libs that we could use? For example phpunit. I can't imagine doing it without using that. What licenses are approved? MIT, BSD? Regarding the code: - Is there any restrictions? - Could it be a MVC? What is too complex? I am just trying to understand the mindset a

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Do, 2017-07-20 at 15:36 +0200, Mathias Grimm wrote: > So no composer, monolog etc? I believe using composer is good and there's already a pull request for using it: https://github.com/php/web-bugs/pull/27 The "big" issue there is that applying it needs coordination with systems@ or whoever mai

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Rowan Collins
On 20/07/2017 13:22, Sara Golemon wrote: FWIW, I started toying with the idea to rewrite it earlier this year I realise a total rewrite isn't for the most part what people are gunning for on this thread, but some may be thinking it, so I thought I'd repeat my response on Twitter at the time:

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Mathias Grimm
So no composer, monolog etc? On 20 July 2017 at 15:28, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mathias Grimm > wrote: > > Any objections about using an existing framework? > > > The same objections raised regarding web-php apply equally to web-bugs. > > -Sara >

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Andreas Heigl
-- Andreas Heigl andr...@heigl.org > Am 20.07.2017 um 14:03 schrieb Johannes Schlüter : > >> On Do, 2017-07-20 at 14:06 +0200, Niklas Keller wrote: >> I'm fine with no user registration required, but there should >> definitely be a user login for people without php.net account. It's >> one of

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Sara Golemon
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Mathias Grimm wrote: > Any objections about using an existing framework? > The same objections raised regarding web-php apply equally to web-bugs. -Sara -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Thomas Hruska
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Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Mathias Grimm
Any objections about using an existing framework? On 20 July 2017 at 14:22, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Niklas Keller wrote: > >> Interesting might be integrating https://3v4l.org/ so code samples are > >> directly run (which of course won't work for code related to e

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Do, 2017-07-20 at 14:06 +0200, Niklas Keller wrote: > I'm fine with no user registration required, but there should > definitely be a user login for people without php.net account. It's > one of the main pain points with the PHP bug tracker. I want a simple > login where I can see all bugs I hav

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Sara Golemon
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Niklas Keller wrote: >> Interesting might be integrating https://3v4l.org/ so code samples are >> directly run (which of course won't work for code related to external >> things like databases or such) >> > +1 to this. Not a must-have, but it would help encourage

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Niklas Keller
> > Hi, > > On Do, 2017-07-20 at 09:53 +0200, Mathias Grimm wrote: > > Is it hosted only by php or it has mirroring as well? > > It's only running on bugs.php.net our controlled server. > > > Is it possible to get a dump of the db? > > The sql folder contains schema definitions. A complete dump can

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hi, On Do, 2017-07-20 at 09:53 +0200, Mathias Grimm wrote: > Is it hosted only by php or it has mirroring as well? It's only running on bugs.php.net our controlled server. > Is it possible to get a dump of the db? The sql folder contains schema definitions. A complete dump can't be shared freel

Re: [PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread James b
Also willing to help with this, the interface alone is very outdated. I think a re-vamp could really benefit the community. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Mathias Grimm wrote: > Hi Sara, > can we talk more about the bugs.php? > had a look at the code and seems similar but its a smaller project

[PHP-DEV] bugs.php.net website

2017-07-20 Thread Mathias Grimm
Hi Sara, can we talk more about the bugs.php? had a look at the code and seems similar but its a smaller project and possibly easier to deal with. Is it hosted only by php or it has mirroring as well? Is it possible to get a dump of the db? Do you have anything specific in mind? Cheers, Mathias