>
> > i didn't mention any break or things. also many languages are different
>
> Yes you did. You just proposed removing large part of PHP API. That
> would break things, there can be no confusion about it.
I just agree with you. we shouldn't :) the old API will stay no one
will ever remove it.
Hi!
> famous articles written about it like "PHP fractal of bad design" and
That article. Which is from what I remember last time reading it was
about 75% like "why I need to look in the manual instead of language
being magically exactly the way I imagine it should be without any
basis?". And ano
>
> Hi!
>
> > This makes an opportunity to replace the old API with object oriented one
> > preventing any kind of BC break.
> >
> > But instead of using this as an extension because of some limitations
> like
> > “string”->startsWith(‘s’); the API should be bundled with the engine (not
> > written
Hi!
> This makes an opportunity to replace the old API with object oriented one
> preventing any kind of BC break.
>
> But instead of using this as an extension because of some limitations like
> “string”->startsWith(‘s’); the API should be bundled with the engine (not
> written in PHP).
This is
Hi Nathan,
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Nathan wesley
wrote:
> I know that many people talked about this over and over.
>
> Why it’s not possible to change the old PHP API ?
>
> The answer is always because it will make HUGE BC breaks
>
> I’ve seen this wonderful idea about scalar object
>De : Nathan wesley [mailto:nathan.o.wes...@gmail.com]
>
> if you're going to write API for string manipulation for example you want it
> either Object Oriented or procedural style.
> because the API should be fluent method chaining etc. you don't want to stop
> the chain and wrap it with a fu
>
> I think that, while attractive, using the same syntax for object methods
> and scalar 'pseudo-'methods is too ambiguous. We just need to solve two
> issues : intuitive order of arguments and nested call readability. We don't
> need to implement the whole OO stuff for scalars. Except this detail
This shouldn't be for PHP 7.0 ofcourse it's too late. it takes a lot of
work and we don't want to get it wrong the second time :)
but in any release before PHP 8
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>
> On Mar 21, 2015 2:15 PM, "Levi Morrison" wrote:
> >
> > > I know that many
How you don't think this is so important ? i stated this because it's so
predictable that someone will say it. Firstly why it's "fake" ? i prefer
"elegant" maybe not the PERFECT solution ? i suggest that you compare the
two choices. and what would you chose if you're a new comer.
Secondly this is
> De : Nathan wesley [mailto:nathan.o.wes...@gmail.com]
>
> The old API should be deprecated in PHP 8.0 and removed completely in PHP
> 9.0 (finally)
That's totally unrealistic. The old API will remain forever (well, we'll
examine the case again in 20 years...).
I had planned to propose somethi
On 21/03/15 04:01, Nathan wesley wrote:
> The old API should be deprecated in PHP 8.0 and removed completely in PHP
> 9.0 (finally)
WHY?
You don't HAVE to use the current API and wiping out all of the legacy
code does not seem like a 'gain'. The two can co exist.
> I hope that you take this serio
2015-03-21 8:25 GMT+01:00 Pierre Joye :
> On Mar 21, 2015 2:15 PM, "Levi Morrison" wrote:
> >
> > > I know that many people here will say that it’s not that important
> > > developers get used to this API and many tutorials based on it.
> >
> > As you guessed, I don't think this is so important t
On Mar 21, 2015 2:15 PM, "Levi Morrison" wrote:
>
> > I know that many people here will say that it’s not that important
> > developers get used to this API and many tutorials based on it.
>
> As you guessed, I don't think this is so important that we should
> create a new "fake" object syntax for
> I know that many people here will say that it’s not that important
> developers get used to this API and many tutorials based on it.
As you guessed, I don't think this is so important that we should
create a new "fake" object syntax for scalar. That's shooting a mouse
with an elephant gun.
--
P
I know that many people talked about this over and over.
Why it’s not possible to change the old PHP API ?
The answer is always because it will make HUGE BC breaks
I’ve seen this wonderful idea about scalar objects authored by nikic
github https://github.com/nikic/scalar_objects.
This will
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