Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-04 Thread Matthew Kavanagh
Matthew Kavanagh wrote: > Would that really be a problem, given that compressing a compressed file > and compressing an uncompressed file will usually yield similar sized > resultant files? > ...and I failed to see the previous email that says the same thing. Genius at work. ;) -- PHP Internals

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-04 Thread Matthew Kavanagh
Derick Rethans wrote: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Greg Beaver wrote: > > >>> 1. zlib is required now with php, and by default php isn't installed >>> with zlib nor does configure catch this, so, while make install is >>> running and when pear is being installed make dies leaving a bad >>> installat

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Stefan Walk wrote: > On 10/4/05, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Greg Beaver wrote: > > > > > > 1. zlib is required now with php, and by default php isn't installed > > > > with zlib nor does configure catch this, so, while make install is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-04 Thread Lukas Smith
Derick Rethans wrote: We are not ignoring it. However the single most useful feature from PEAR POV was dropped from PHP5: namespaces. That's lame, this has nothing to do with E_STRICT warnings or other dubious code. How is it dubious to support PHP4 and PHP5 with the same code base? There

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Lukas Smith wrote: > Marcus Boerger wrote: > > > You should face reality that php 5 is a bit different than php 4. > > Many of the things changed in php 5 were made to support exactly pear > > development but pear is absolutley ignoring it. Why can't at least the > > things th

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-04 Thread Stefan Walk
On 10/4/05, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Greg Beaver wrote: > > > > 1. zlib is required now with php, and by default php isn't installed > > > with zlib nor does configure catch this, so, while make install is > > > running and when pear is being installed m

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-04 Thread Lukas Smith
Marcus Boerger wrote: You should face reality that php 5 is a bit different than php 4. Many of the things changed in php 5 were made to support exactly pear development but pear is absolutley ignoring it. Why can't at least the things that shall be shipped in 5.1 fashion - especially since you'

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Greg Beaver wrote: > > 1. zlib is required now with php, and by default php isn't installed > > with zlib nor does configure catch this, so, while make install is > > running and when pear is being installed make dies leaving a bad > > installation. > > I could elimina

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-03 Thread Curt Zirzow
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:27:31 -0500, Greg Beaver wrote: > Curt Zirzow wrote: >> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:21:57 -0700, Greg Beaver wrote: >> >>>I've been running the pear command using PHP 5.1rc1 ever since it came >>>out, and it works just fine. This is a problem specific to the >>>install-pear.pha

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-03 Thread Greg Beaver
Curt Zirzow wrote: > On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:21:57 -0700, Greg Beaver wrote: > >>I've been running the pear command using PHP 5.1rc1 ever since it came >>out, and it works just fine. This is a problem specific to the >>install-pear.phar that in fact did not happen just 2 weeks ago - perhaps >>some

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-03 Thread Curt Zirzow
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:21:57 -0700, Greg Beaver wrote: > > I've been running the pear command using PHP 5.1rc1 ever since it came > out, and it works just fine. This is a problem specific to the > install-pear.phar that in fact did not happen just 2 weeks ago - perhaps > something has changed in

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-03 Thread Sergio Carvalho
Helgi Þormar wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:21:57 -0700, Greg Beaver wrote: Until all the standard unix distros (gentoo/redhat/debian/etc.) start distributing PHP 5.x as the standard PHP version, this isn't an option. Just so you know, Fedora and FreeBSD have had 5.x as standard for some time

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Justin Patrin
On 10/1/05, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Christian, > > Saturday, October 1, 2005, 6:13:51 PM, you wrote: > > > Helgi Þormar wrote: > >> So in a way I agree with Jani, specially since many distros are already > >> moving to 5.x > > > Maybe you should look at the installed bases

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Christian, Saturday, October 1, 2005, 6:13:51 PM, you wrote: > Helgi Þormar wrote: >> So in a way I agree with Jani, specially since many distros are already >> moving to 5.x > Maybe you should look at the installed bases of PHP instead of the PHP > version distributed with the latest dis

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Christian Schneider
Helgi Þormar wrote: So in a way I agree with Jani, specially since many distros are already moving to 5.x Maybe you should look at the installed bases of PHP instead of the PHP version distributed with the latest distros. Anyone got current stats on that? And no, I don't believe in forcing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Greg Beaver
Derick Rethans wrote: > On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Greg Beaver wrote: > > >>It appears that E_STRICT is being triggered even though it is explicitly >>NOT asked for. All the same, I added another redundant >>error_reporting() call at the top of install-pear.php, re-built the >>.phar and committed to pe

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Helgi Þormar
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:21:57 -0700, Greg Beaver wrote: > Until all the standard unix > distros (gentoo/redhat/debian/etc.) start distributing PHP 5.x as the > standard PHP version, this isn't an option. Just so you know, Fedora and FreeBSD have had 5.x as standard for some time now ;-) I can't sp

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Greg Beaver wrote: > It appears that E_STRICT is being triggered even though it is explicitly > NOT asked for. All the same, I added another redundant > error_reporting() call at the top of install-pear.php, re-built the > .phar and committed to pearweb. Hopefully this will f

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Pierre, Saturday, October 1, 2005, 5:04:01 PM, you wrote: > On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:48:47 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcus Boerger) wrote: >> Hello Pierre, >> >> Saturday, October 1, 2005, 4:24:02 PM, you wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:17:19 +0200 (CEST) >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deri

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Pierre wrote: We have to modify it as the underlying code is not php5 _only_ but have to work for both php5 and php4. You haven't heard about branches either? :) --Jani -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.n

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Greg Beaver wrote: support entirely from the pear command. Until all the standard unix distros (gentoo/redhat/debian/etc.) start distributing PHP 5.x as the standard PHP version, this isn't an option. And as long as you keep it backwards-compatible, they won't upgrade.

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Greg Beaver
Derick Rethans wrote: > Hello! > > I am wondering why "make install-pear" comes up with hundreds of > e_strict warnings? The code tests for PHP 5.1 but makes use of all old > things that are now considered e_strict or deprecated. Besides this for > some reason setting error_reporting to 0 doesn

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Pierre
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:48:47 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcus Boerger) wrote: > Hello Pierre, > > Saturday, October 1, 2005, 4:24:02 PM, you wrote: > > > On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:17:19 +0200 (CEST) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote: > > > >> 1. not modify any error reporting setting >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Pierre, Saturday, October 1, 2005, 4:24:02 PM, you wrote: > On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:17:19 +0200 (CEST) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote: >> 1. not modify any error reporting setting > We have to modify it as the underlying code is not php5 _only_ but have > to work for both php5

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Pierre
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:17:19 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote: > But it seems E_STRICT is turned on later for some reason too. Can > this code please be upgraded to 1. not modify any error reporting > setting and 2. PHP 5.1 compatible code. Currently installing pear > does no

[PHP-DEV] Re: phar and e_strict

2005-10-01 Thread Pierre
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:17:19 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote: > 1. not modify any error reporting setting We have to modify it as the underlying code is not php5 _only_ but have to work for both php5 and php4. > 2. PHP 5.1 compatible code. It is compatible, or do you mean