Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Sven Drieling
Am Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:00:41 +0200 schrieb Arvids Godjuks : Hallo, > Right now we need a breakthrough event - get type hints into the language > at all. The most sensible thing to do it is to add basic type hints that > work like the current conversion rules, maybe add some notices/warnings for >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Daniel Lowrey
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > This bickering already jeopardized the type hinting RFC's how many times? 3 as I recall? Zeev was kind enough to reach out privately prior to your message and we began exchanged mails trying to better understand each other's point of view

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Arvids Godjuks
February 16, 2015 5:13 PM > > > To: internals@lists.php.net > > > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit. > > > > > > > The 0.1 RFC version was mentioned a lot as a good compromise by many > > > > people and had major support. > > > > > > Any

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Daniel Lowrey
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: rdlow...@gmail.com [mailto:rdlow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > > Daniel Lowrey > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:13 PM > > To: internals@lists.php.net

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Zeev Suraski
> -Original Message- > From: rdlow...@gmail.com [mailto:rdlow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Daniel Lowrey > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:13 PM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: I quit. > > > The 0.1 RFC version was mentioned a lot a

[PHP-DEV] Re: I quit.

2015-02-16 Thread Daniel Lowrey
> The 0.1 RFC version was mentioned a lot as a good compromise by many > people and had major support. People keep saying this like it's a thing, but I and others are vehemently opposed to this as a solution. The only thing weak hints accomplishes is the illusion of safety without actually providi