Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-27 Thread Sherif Ramadan
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Gábor Fási wrote: > >> On 27 July 2012 13:15, Laupretre François >> wrote: >> >> How about using git for the actual documents too.. No better way to >> >> collaborate imho. >> > >> > Do you mean using github

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-27 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Gábor Fási wrote: > On 27 July 2012 13:15, Laupretre François > wrote: > >> How about using git for the actual documents too.. No better way to > >> collaborate imho. > > > > Do you mean using github or integrating git VCS in a RFC app ? If you > mean using githu

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-27 Thread Gábor Fási
On 27 July 2012 13:15, Laupretre François wrote: >> How about using git for the actual documents too.. No better way to >> collaborate imho. > > Do you mean using github or integrating git VCS in a RFC app ? If you mean > using github, it is a convenient way to store document evolution and > com

RE: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-27 Thread Laupretre François
> How about using git for the actual documents too.. No better way to > collaborate imho. Do you mean using github or integrating git VCS in a RFC app ? If you mean using github, it is a convenient way to store document evolution and comments, but what about the voting process, let alone RFC num

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 20:58, Kris Craig wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Faulds > wrote: On 26/07/12 16:44, Laupretre François wrote: There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all know from the

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Kris Craig
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Faulds wrote: > On 26/07/12 16:44, Laupretre François wrote: > >> There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) >>> >> Right. We all know from the beginning that a wiki is better than nothing >> but, when the number of users/document

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 16:44, Laupretre François wrote: There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all know from the beginning that a wiki is better than nothing but, when the number of users/documents grows, it becomes very hard to keep the information up-to-date. An

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 19:11, Evert Pot wrote: On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Kris Craig wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Faulds wrote: On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. Welp, guess it's tim

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Evert Pot
On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Kris Craig wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Faulds wrote: > >> On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: >> >>> I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has >>> complete unit tests. >>> >> Welp, guess it's time for me to learn

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 18:53, Kris Craig wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Faulds > wrote: On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. Welp, guess it'

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Kris Craig
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Faulds wrote: > On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: > >> I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has >> complete unit tests. >> > Welp, guess it's time for me to learn how to unit-test properly. > > > -- > Andrew Faulds > http:

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 18:46, Levi Morrison wrote: I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. Welp, guess it's time for me to learn how to unit-test properly. -- Andrew Faulds http://ajf.me/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubsc

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Levi Morrison
I'm in favor of an RFC app on the condition it has a nice UX and has complete unit tests. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 26/07/12 16:44, Laupretre François wrote: There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all know from the beginning that a wiki is better than nothing but, when the number of users/documents grows, it becomes very hard to keep the information up-to-date. A

RE: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Laupretre François
> There was a time when one could have written an app for it in PHP ;) Right. We all know from the beginning that a wiki is better than nothing but, when the number of users/documents grows, it becomes very hard to keep the information up-to-date. Another problem is that documents and their co

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Lester Caine
Florian Anderiasch wrote: I made an RFC page on it.http://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto > >It's not really an RFC, more a meta-RFC or informational wiki page. It >would helpful if you could edit it too. I just want to make an obvious >go-to place for info on this. What I see as most in need of upgrade

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Florian Anderiasch
On 07/26/2012 11:41 AM, Andrew Faulds wrote: > Hi Stefan, > > I made an RFC page on it. http://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto > > It's not really an RFC, more a meta-RFC or informational wiki page. It > would helpful if you could edit it too. I just want to make an obvious > go-to place for info on this.

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Andrew Faulds
Hi Stefan, I made an RFC page on it. http://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto It's not really an RFC, more a meta-RFC or informational wiki page. It would helpful if you could edit it too. I just want to make an obvious go-to place for info on this. Thanks. On 26/07/12 08:49, Stefan Marr wrote: Hi An

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi Andrew: On 25 Jul 2012, at 22:50, Andrew Faulds wrote: > I think someone (perhaps me) should write an RFC on how to write an RFC Note that a new page create on the wiki in the RFC namespace comes with a template that gives some guidance on how to write an RFC. Lukas based it on my original

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-26 Thread Ryan McCue
Stas Malyshev wrote: > Why have numbers if we can use URLs? URLs both uniquely identify the RFC > and suggest what they are about. Can you say what PEP 410 is about? How > about https://wiki.php.net/rfc/releaseprocess? That sounds way better, agreed. > I have yet to meet one person who was confus

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-25 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! >> Secondly, I noticed that Python's PEPs are numbered, unlike PHP's >> RFCs. Whilst they aren't quite the same thing, I wonder if this would >> be useful, particularly since it provides a simple and unambiguous way >> to refer to one, e.g. RFC 123 instead of "RFC on how to write an RFC".

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-25 Thread Ryan McCue
Andrew Faulds wrote: Secondly, I noticed that Python's PEPs are numbered, unlike PHP's RFCs. Whilst they aren't quite the same thing, I wonder if this would be useful, particularly since it provides a simple and unambiguous way to refer to one, e.g. RFC 123 instead of "RFC on how to write an RF

Re: [PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-25 Thread Kris Craig
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Andrew Faulds wrote: > Hi there, > > First off I'd like to apologise for being a generally useless and overly > reactive poster on this list. I'm going to exercise more self-constraint > now after noticing I made more posts on this list this month than anyone > el

[PHP-DEV] RFCs and organisation

2012-07-25 Thread Andrew Faulds
Hi there, First off I'd like to apologise for being a generally useless and overly reactive poster on this list. I'm going to exercise more self-constraint now after noticing I made more posts on this list this month than anyone else, this month. Anyway, onto the subject of this email, in wh