Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-23 Thread Lars Schultz
Am 22.08.2012 09:45, schrieb Lester Caine: Personally I'm looking for a 'Official Userland Library' that provides EXAMPLES of how to do operations rather than yet another downloadable library. Something I can cut and past from into my own code when I need a widget and which provides a much more '

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-22 Thread Morgan L. Owens
On 2012-08-22 19:45, Lester Caine wrote: Personally I'm looking for a 'Official Userland Library' that provides EXAMPLES of how to do operations rather than yet another downloadable library. This is also the sort of thing I would like to see. The examples within the manual are written for expo

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-22 Thread Morgan L. Owens
On 2012-08-22 19:45, Lester Caine wrote: Personally I'm looking for a 'Official Userland Library' that provides EXAMPLES of how to do operations rather than yet another downloadable library. This is also the sort of thing I would like to see. The examples within the manual are written for expo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-22 Thread Lester Caine
Christoph Hochstrasser wrote: In Ruby there's the "Ruby Standard Library" Isn't that more like PEAR anyway? But with a lot less options :) Personally I'm looking for a 'Official Userland Library' that provides EXAMPLES of how to do operations rather than yet another downloadable library. Somet

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-22 Thread Sebastian Krebs
2012/8/22 Christoph Hochstrasser > Hi, > > I find this idea awesome! We could maybe take some inspiration from other > communities, for example Ruby. In Ruby there's the "Ruby Standard Library" ( > http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-1.9.3/) which is a collection of classes > written in Ruby and shipp

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-22 Thread Christoph Hochstrasser
Hi, I find this idea awesome! We could maybe take some inspiration from other communities, for example Ruby. In Ruby there's the "Ruby Standard Library" (http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-1.9.3/) which is a collection of classes written in Ruby and shipped with the Ruby distribution. I imagine so

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krebs
2012/8/21 Andrew Faulds > On 21/08/12 21:44, Lars Schultz wrote: > >> Am 20.08.2012 22:51, schrieb Andrew Faulds: >> >>> On 20/08/12 21:43, Lars Schultz wrote: >>> It's a ridiculous argument, IMO. Nothing you could add to core couldn't >>> be implemented in userland code somehow. (yes, that's hyp

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-21 Thread Lester Caine
Lars Schultz wrote: Am 20.08.2012 23:13, schrieb Lester Caine: Boilerplates on how to do more complex operations sounds a very good idea to me. It's exactly the sort of thing I've been asking for ... I am glad you like the idea!;) although "boilerplate" does seem to leave a metallic aftertaste

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-21 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 21/08/12 21:44, Lars Schultz wrote: Am 20.08.2012 22:51, schrieb Andrew Faulds: On 20/08/12 21:43, Lars Schultz wrote: It's a ridiculous argument, IMO. Nothing you could add to core couldn't be implemented in userland code somehow. (yes, that's hyperbole, but there is very often a userland so

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-21 Thread Lars Schultz
Am 20.08.2012 22:51, schrieb Andrew Faulds: On 20/08/12 21:43, Lars Schultz wrote: It's a ridiculous argument, IMO. Nothing you could add to core couldn't be implemented in userland code somehow. (yes, that's hyperbole, but there is very often a userland solution. Most functions are for convenien

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-21 Thread Sebastian Krebs
Hi, Nice to see my name not only in my signature ;) I've not much to say right now, but what you wrote was slightly in my mind, when I wrote the other mail. I'll keep an eye on it (at least ;)). Regards, Sebastian 2012/8/20 Lars Schultz > Am 20.08.2012 19:43, schrieb Sebastian Krebs: > >> Wha

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-21 Thread Lars Schultz
Am 20.08.2012 23:13, schrieb Lester Caine: Boilerplates on how to do more complex operations sounds a very good idea to me. It's exactly the sort of thing I've been asking for ... I am glad you like the idea!;) although "boilerplate" does seem to leave a metallic aftertaste in my mouth. espec

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-20 Thread Lester Caine
Lars Schultz wrote: Am 20.08.2012 19:43, schrieb Sebastian Krebs: What I don't understand is, why should every function goes directly into the core, if you can achieve exactly the same without core changes? This comment from Sebastian got me thinking. It's true. Every-someone has his own views

Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-20 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 20/08/12 21:43, Lars Schultz wrote: Am 20.08.2012 19:43, schrieb Sebastian Krebs: What I don't understand is, why should every function goes directly into the core, if you can achieve exactly the same without core changes? This comment from Sebastian got me thinking. It's true. Every-someon

[PHP-DEV] Official Userland Library (was: removing an item from an array)

2012-08-20 Thread Lars Schultz
Am 20.08.2012 19:43, schrieb Sebastian Krebs: What I don't understand is, why should every function goes directly into the core, if you can achieve exactly the same without core changes? This comment from Sebastian got me thinking. It's true. Every-someone has his own views on what is absolute