Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-08 Thread BohwaZ/PHP
Could not find anything about PDOStmt::setParam either, but I fixed it for you: http://php.net/pdostatement_bindparam You're welcome ;) Ah ah good catch :) I meant bindParam obviously ^^ The fact is http://php.net/bindparam will return nothing about PDOStatement::bindParam which is kind of wei

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-07 Thread Michael Wallner
Am Do., 7. Feb. 2019, 10:27 hat BohwaZ/PHP geschrieben: > Le 04/02/2019 01:14, azjezz a écrit : > > In my opinion, current design looks old, outdated and bland. This > > sadly may reflect "badly" on the language reputation nowadays. > > I find that the main PHP website is quite good actually, the

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-07 Thread azjezz
Hello Bohwaz, i think you should take a look at the mock ups[1]. I don't plan on using an JS Framework, the frameworks i suggested are lightweight CSS Frameworks. I'm also planning on keeping the shortcut redirects and maybe even improve them. [1]: https://github.com/azjezz/web-php-mock-ups

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-07 Thread BohwaZ/PHP
Le 04/02/2019 01:14, azjezz a écrit : In my opinion, current design looks old, outdated and bland. This sadly may reflect "badly" on the language reputation nowadays. I find that the main PHP website is quite good actually, the design looks modern, it is quite clear and easy to use and it prov

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-06 Thread Rowan Collins
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 22:25, azjezz wrote: > You are totally right. > > in my opinion the the community site should be targeted to all the PHP > Community ( PHP Developer / Core Developers ) to ask questions about PHP, > discuss the development of PHP and related topics. > > Moderation should be

Re: [PHP-DEV] 回复: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread Peter Kokot
Hello, On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 01:37, 苏晞 <2823324...@qq.com> wrote: > > What the hell are you fucking talk about ,beaches -- 原始邮件 > -- If I'd run this mailing list, you'd get a several weeks to months mute now. But luckily that's not the case. Read the mailing list

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2019-02-05 Thread ????
What the hell are you fucking talk about ,beaches -- -- ??: "Midori Koçak" : 2019??2??6??(??) 3:49 ??: "Levi Morrison";"azjezz"; : "internals@lists.php.net";"php-webmas...@lists.php.

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread azjezz
On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:51 PM, Rowan Collins wrote: > On 05/02/2019 17:32, Tom Worster wrote: > > > I have two suggestions, assuming you proceed roughly as outlined in > > your original post. > > > > 1. Start with /community > > > > > A new community website [4], it can be a place for pe

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread azjezz
On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:49 PM, Midori Koçak wrote: > I can do some design, I designed the UI of CakePHP framework generators in > 2015. You can see the whole process here: > https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/issues/6679 > > We should not rely on any css, js or html framework in my opini

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread Rowan Collins
On 05/02/2019 17:32, Tom Worster wrote: I have two suggestions, assuming you proceed roughly as outlined in your original post. 1. Start with /community A new community website [4], it can be a place for people to ask questions and discuss php in general - no one uses IRC anymore. Like all

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread Midori Koçak
I can do some design, I designed the UI of CakePHP framework generators in 2015. You can see the whole process here: https://github.com/cakephp/cakephp/issues/6679 We should not rely on any css, js or html framework in my opinion. But it's up to you. For layout, CSS Grid and Flexbox is more th

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread Tom Worster
I have two suggestions, assuming you proceed roughly as outlined in your original post. 1. Start with /community A new community website [4], it can be a place for people to ask questions and discuss php in general - no one uses IRC anymore. and use it to build and coordinate the dev team fo

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread azjezz
> Is this your desired look you wanna propose? I may misunderstand and this is the original proposal : > https://twitter.com/azjezz/status/1091722433424285698 how ever people seem to lean more toward having releases and changlogs in the front-page. > - example code (with an option to run) i

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread Rowan Collins
On 5 February 2019 13:51:45 GMT+00:00, "Johannes Schlüter" wrote: >I for one don't think we need news going back to 2017 on the frontpage. >I would like a stronger emphasis on the docs and maybe making the >search more obvious (you have direct access to all docs from there - >it's not just a stup

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Mo, 2019-02-04 at 15:32 +0200, Andrey Andreev wrote: > Hi, > > I could nitpick on most of the proposed plan, but I really only > wanted > to reply to this: > > > > > > > > > * A new home page, not a "news" page, but a page simply showing > > > the PHP Logo, a code example maybe and > > > the

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
wt., 5 lut 2019 o 04:32 azjezz napisał(a): > ... > mock ups : https://github.com/azjezz/web-php-mock-ups > screenshot : > https://github.com/azjezz/web-php-mock-ups/blob/master/screenshots/getting-started.png > Is this your desired look you wanna propose? I may misunderstand and probably am. I m

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-05 Thread Côme Chilliet
Le lundi 4 février 2019, 14:44:31 CET Rowan Collins a écrit : > In general, though, I quite like the current site design, and would much > rather effort was spent iteratively improving it, rather than throwing it > away and implementing a new set of bugs. > > My personal annoyance is the search re

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread azjezz
On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:20 AM, Andrey Andreev wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:14 PM azjezz azj...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Monday, February 4, 2019 2:32 PM, Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I could nitpick on mo

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread Andrey Andreev
Hi, On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:14 PM azjezz wrote: > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Monday, February 4, 2019 2:32 PM, Andrey Andreev wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I could nitpick on most of the proposed plan, but I really only wanted > > to reply to this: > > > > > > - A new home page, not

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread azjezz
On Monday, February 4, 2019 5:11 PM, Thomas Hruska wrote: > On 2/4/2019 6:32 AM, Andrey Andreev wrote: > > > Hi, > > I could nitpick on most of the proposed plan, but I really only wanted > > to reply to this: > > > > > > - A new home page, not a "news" page, but a page simply showing the > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread azjezz
On Monday, February 4, 2019 5:16 PM, Rowan Collins wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 15:19, azjezz wrote: > >> I'm not proposing updating the UI and other websites to use, instead rebuild >> all PHP websites. > > I'm not sure what the difference between "updating the UI" and "rebuilding > the we

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread Thomas Nunninger
Hi Thomas, I regularly go to the php.net homepage for the live documentation search function just to make sure I'm using functions correctly.  My most frequent search is the date() function for the % code list.  One of these days I'll print out that docs page instead of looking it up every ti

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread Rowan Collins
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 16:11, Thomas Hruska wrote: > For a newbie, I'd say a "Get Started" button that goes to a vetted group > of starter tutorials (maybe videos?) on a variety of subjects could be > valuable. > I know some people love them, but I absolutely hate video introductions. I like to s

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread Rowan Collins
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 15:19, azjezz wrote: > I'm not proposing updating the UI and other websites to use, instead > rebuild all PHP websites. > I'm not sure what the difference between "updating the UI" and "rebuilding the websites" is. Do you mean that as well as rewriting every HTML and CSS t

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread Thomas Hruska
On 2/4/2019 6:32 AM, Andrey Andreev wrote: Hi, I could nitpick on most of the proposed plan, but I really only wanted to reply to this: * A new home page, not a "news" page, but a page simply showing the PHP Logo, a code example maybe and the download link [3]. [...] [3] https://camo.githu

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread azjezz
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, February 4, 2019 2:02 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: > On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 5:15 PM azjezz azj...@protonmail.com wrote: > > > Hello Internals ! > > As @official_php suggested [1], I'm here to propose a new website for

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread azjezz
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, February 4, 2019 2:32 PM, Andrey Andreev wrote: > Hi, > > I could nitpick on most of the proposed plan, but I really only wanted > to reply to this: > > > > - A new home page, not a "news" page, but a page simply showing the PHP > > > Logo, a code

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread Rowan Collins
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 13:33, Andrey Andreev wrote: > > I'm all for a modern look and all, but let's please keep the news on > the index page. Personally, I only go to php.net to look for the news, > changelogs and to search the docs. This image suggests that I'd need > to do an extra click for ea

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-04 Thread Andrey Andreev
Hi, I could nitpick on most of the proposed plan, but I really only wanted to reply to this: > > * A new home page, not a "news" page, but a page simply showing the PHP > > Logo, a code example maybe and > > the download link [3]. > > > > [...] > > > > [3] > > https://camo.githubusercontent.com

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-03 Thread Peter Kokot
Hello, On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 02:03, Levi Morrison wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 5:15 PM azjezz wrote: > > > > Hello Internals ! > > > > As @official_php suggested [1], I'm here to propose a new website for the > > PHP Project. > > > > In my opinion, current design looks old, outdated and bl

Re: [PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-03 Thread Levi Morrison
On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 5:15 PM azjezz wrote: > > Hello Internals ! > > As @official_php suggested [1], I'm here to propose a new website for the PHP > Project. > > In my opinion, current design looks old, outdated and bland. This sadly may > reflect "badly" on the language > > reputation nowaday

[PHP-DEV] New website for the PHP project

2019-02-03 Thread azjezz
Hello Internals ! As @official_php suggested [1], I'm here to propose a new website for the PHP Project. In my opinion, current design looks old, outdated and bland. This sadly may reflect "badly" on the language reputation nowadays. New comers find it hard to go around the website, to write