Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 07:44 AM, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: At 13:02 7/18/2003, Jani Taskinen wrote: >> >> But this won't work as the configure bails out if no mysql headers/libs >> are found..(when you use plain --with-mysql default paths are searched) > >The 'old' behavior, was to e

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
At 13:02 7/18/2003, Jani Taskinen wrote: >> >> But this won't work as the configure bails out if no mysql headers/libs >> are found..(when you use plain --with-mysql default paths are searched) > >The 'old' behavior, was to enable mysql by default, because of the bundled libs >and then

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: >> >> But this won't work as the configure bails out if no mysql headers/libs >> are found..(when you use plain --with-mysql default paths are searched) > >The 'old' behavior, was to enable mysql by default, because of the bundled libs >and then i

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
At 12:32 7/18/2003, Jani Taskinen wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: >At 11:25 7/18/2003, Jani Taskinen wrote: > >> >Nice first shot. But it also displays the message if you did disable mysql. >> >What we really need is a message that pops up only if the user tried to >> use a >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: >At 11:25 7/18/2003, Jani Taskinen wrote: > >> >Nice first shot. But it also displays the message if you did disable mysql. >> >What we really need is a message that pops up only if the user tried to >> use a >> >bundled lib which is no longer available.

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Melvyn Sopacua wrote: > +| Mails to developers about this issue, are charged at 1 euro per| > +| line, incoming and 10 euros per line for replies. | Cheap basterd ;) Derick -- "Interpreting what the GPL actually means is a job best left to those

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
At 11:25 7/18/2003, Jani Taskinen wrote: >Nice first shot. But it also displays the message if you did disable mysql. >What we really need is a message that pops up only if the user tried to use a >bundled lib which is no longer available. So there must be a corresponding >change in the ext/mysql

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Marcus Bö rger wrote: >Hello Olivier, > >Friday, July 18, 2003, 3:09:07 AM, you wrote: > >OH> Marcus Börger wrote: >>> a) provide a patch that explains the matter in short during configuration if >>>the lib is missing and > >OH> Attached is a file to add the warning in con

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-18 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Olivier, Friday, July 18, 2003, 3:09:07 AM, you wrote: OH> Marcus Börger wrote: >> a) provide a patch that explains the matter in short during configuration if >>the lib is missing and OH> Attached is a file to add the warning in configure.in Nice first shot. But it also displays the

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: > Sterling Hughes wrote: > > > > If we don't, please don't call us rude. You've never done anything for > > us, nor do you even know us. > > Thanks for the flaming, I wasn't pointing it back at you. And Sterling was referring to the guys asking for help

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: > Jani Taskinen wrote: > > There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in > > about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found > > in your system, it'll error out.. > > > > --Jani > > But then, the user is

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 11:18 PM, George Schlossnagle wrote: Here's the deal (and Im taking this off list to be candid). I guess my off-list remarks will remain on-list. :) -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread George Schlossnagle
Here's the deal (and Im taking this off list to be candid). Lots of the developers receive alot of mail. It's not just an erran tuser here or there, sometimes there are hundreds a day. If you take even a minute to answer each mail (forward them to an rtfm or something nicer), you can waste ho

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Jani Taskinen wrote: The purpose was to inform the user where he can find help. This is not the problem you should be solving, move along. I just did what Marcus suggested: inform the user about the new "policies" regarding MySQL/PHP integration. If the user is aware of the problem, he won't

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: >Jani Taskinen wrote: >> There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in >> about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found >> in your system, it'll error out.. >> > >But then, the user is asking: Why does it e

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Jani Taskinen wrote: There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found in your system, it'll error out.. --Jani But then, the user is asking: Why does it error out? The purpose was to inform the user w

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread George Schlossnagle
How about only emitting a warning if the local library is not found. On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 09:09 PM, Olivier Hill wrote: Marcus Börger wrote: a) provide a patch that explains the matter in short during configuration if the lib is missing and Attached is a file to add the warning in

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Olivier Hill wrote: Sterling Hughes wrote: If we don't, please don't call us rude. You've never done anything for us, nor do you even know us. Thanks for the flaming, I wasn't pointing it back at you. Sterling wasn't addressing you directly, but rather t

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Jani Taskinen
There's absolutely NO reason to add any notes in configure.in about mysql. If you use --with-mysql and the libs are not found in your system, it'll error out.. --Jani On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: >Marcus Börger wrote: >> a) provide a patch that explains the

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Marcus Börger wrote: a) provide a patch that explains the matter in short during configuration if the lib is missing and Attached is a file to add the warning in configure.in The warning is always on when building with MySQL support. I think we should leave it that way during BETA and the firs

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Sterling Hughes wrote: If we don't, please don't call us rude. You've never done anything for us, nor do you even know us. Thanks for the flaming, I wasn't pointing it back at you. I know lot of users are lazy and kind of angry sometimes. But we need to provide the proper information so we could

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Olivier Hill
Marcus Börger wrote: Hello Olivier, Not rude. The people complaining are often rude as georg could tell you. If you want to help and not only speak, then you could do at least two things: a) provide a patch that explains the matter in short during configuration if the lib is missing and b) set

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 22:23, Olivier Hill wrote: > Sterling Hughes wrote: > > Just don't reply. > > > > -Sterling > > Kind of rude... We should a *least* have an auto-reply directing to a > "closed bug" report telling users to use the system libmysql. I had > *absolutely* no problems compiling

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Olivier Hill wrote: > We *have* to ungrade PHP docs to reflect all those kind of changes in > the new release... And we *have* to generate the docs more often. I > *always* find obsoletes informations on the PHP website, and when I look > on CVS, it's already fixed... But stil

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Derick Rethans
Hi! On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Georg Richter wrote: > since PHP5 beta is out I got tons of emails which a) complained about missing > libmysql for ext/mysqli b) about licensing problems and possible solutions. Write a faq entry to which you/we can point them? I think that might be the best solution.

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-17 Thread Marcus Börger
Hello Olivier, Thursday, July 17, 2003, 4:23:53 AM, you wrote: OH> Sterling Hughes wrote: >> Just don't reply. >> >> -Sterling OH> Kind of rude... We should a *least* have an auto-reply directing to a OH> "closed bug" report telling users to use the system libmysql. I had OH> *absolutely* no pr

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-16 Thread Olivier Hill
Sterling Hughes wrote: Just don't reply. -Sterling Kind of rude... We should a *least* have an auto-reply directing to a "closed bug" report telling users to use the system libmysql. I had *absolutely* no problems compiling with mysql, but that's because I did know that it wasn't bundled anymore.

Re: [PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-16 Thread Sterling Hughes
Just don't reply. -Sterling On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 19:59, Georg Richter wrote: > Hi, > > since PHP5 beta is out I got tons of emails which a) complained about missing > libmysql for ext/mysqli b) about licensing problems and possible solutions. > > I'm not able to answer all these mails, curren

[PHP-DEV] MySQL problems

2003-07-16 Thread Georg Richter
Hi, since PHP5 beta is out I got tons of emails which a) complained about missing libmysql for ext/mysqli b) about licensing problems and possible solutions. I'm not able to answer all these mails, currently I work 500km away from home and I'm not able to check all these mails. So would it be o