Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Tom Boutell
There is already a safe and sensible way to do this in a shared hosting environment: the host installs pecl packages that everyone gets, and only after verifying that they don't reduce the security of the shared environment. Or, yes, just get a vps! Really, it's not expensive anymore (: On Sat, Au

Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Lester Caine
Yahav Gindi Bar wrote: Shared hosting is cheap for a reason, and trying to cheat >shared hosters by changing PHP both wrong and pointless. My wish is not to cheat using PHP but to give the shared hosting users somehow the ability to enjoy from PECL packages without being restricted to their prov

Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Yahav Gindi Bar
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Yahav Gindi Bar wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> After the last discussion I've started about runkit which some of you >> suggest to keep it in PECL - I thought about the extensions "problem" in >> PHP and wish to as

Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > Many developers use shared hosting as PHP env which not allows them to > install new extensions in PHP. You do realize they do it not because they are evil people thriving on suffering of their clients, but because they need controlled environment they can maintain? If you need environment

Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Faulds wrote: > On 04/08/12 21:03, Nikita Popov wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Yahav Gindi Bar >> wrote: >> >>> We had dl() until it was deprecated, and even when we got it I guess that >>> administrators disabled the dl() method because of se

Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Yahav Gindi Bar wrote: > Hi, > > After the last discussion I've started about runkit which some of you > suggest to keep it in PECL - I thought about the extensions "problem" in > PHP and wish to ask for your opinion. > > Many developers use shared hosting as PHP e

Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Yahav Gindi Bar
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Yahav Gindi Bar > wrote: > > We had dl() until it was deprecated, and even when we got it I guess that > > administrators disabled the dl() method because of security reasons. > > However, PECL got limited ext

Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Andrew Faulds
On 04/08/12 21:03, Nikita Popov wrote: On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Yahav Gindi Bar wrote: We had dl() until it was deprecated, and even when we got it I guess that administrators disabled the dl() method because of security reasons. However, PECL got limited extensions which, as long as I k

Re: [PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Nikita Popov
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Yahav Gindi Bar wrote: > We had dl() until it was deprecated, and even when we got it I guess that > administrators disabled the dl() method because of security reasons. > However, PECL got limited extensions which, as long as I know, does not put > the server into

[PHP-DEV] Integrate PECL into PHP

2012-08-04 Thread Yahav Gindi Bar
Hi, After the last discussion I've started about runkit which some of you suggest to keep it in PECL - I thought about the extensions "problem" in PHP and wish to ask for your opinion. Many developers use shared hosting as PHP env which not allows them to install new extensions in PHP. In order t