Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: > The issue in my mind is one of portability. It would be nice, as a > developer working in PHP, to be able to rely on functionality like > encryption (and other unrelated goodies) being available on Joe User's > $5/month webhost who don't go aro

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: > Perhaps you're not seeing my point, or perhaps you don't care about > users? I speak as a developer, not as some guy with a crap webhost, and > my concern is that I would like to write applications that many people > can run, not just those who

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Christian Schneider wrote: > I'm sure if there's a major uproar about an extension being mandatory > for the next killer application then they'll reconsider. But for now it > seems that encryption functionality a la mcrypt hasn't been in high > enough demand. Even if it was, I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Matthew Charles Kavanagh
Christian Schneider wrote: Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: Perhaps you're not seeing my point, or perhaps you don't care about users? I speak as a developer, not as some guy with a crap webhost, and So according to you every single extension should be put bundled and installed by default? If no

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Christian Schneider
Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: Perhaps you're not seeing my point, or perhaps you don't care about users? I speak as a developer, not as some guy with a crap webhost, and So according to you every single extension should be put bundled and installed by default? If not, then someone has to draw

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Matthew Charles Kavanagh
Derick Rethans wrote: On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: The issue in my mind is one of portability. It would be nice, as a developer working in PHP, to be able to rely on functionality like encryption (and other unrelated goodies) being available on Joe User's $5/month webhost who

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Matthew Charles Kavanagh
(earlier message, sending to list) Derick Rethans wrote: This is definitely not planned - we rather not bundle any library, and definitely not an LGPL library. Reinventing the wheel by providing encryption routines in PHP does not make sense really. PHP is meant to be a glue to provide access to li

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Matthew Charles Kavanagh wrote: > Derick Rethans wrote: > > This is definitely not planned - we rather not bundle any library, and > > definitely not an LGPL library. > > > > Reinventing the wheel by providing encryption routines in PHP does not > > make sense really. PHP is me

Re: [PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Mark Evans wrote: > Since the mcrypt library is released under the GPL and php under the > php 3.0 licence I guess the option to integrate the solutions isnt > available so the other option would be for php to include their own > encryption routines. libmcrypt is LGPL, not GPL

[PHP-DEV] Encryption Routines and PHP 5.1+

2005-03-04 Thread Mark Evans
Hi All I am sorry if this has been asked before... I have searched the internals list and also many of the other php lists but couldnt find any conclusive answer. The question is, are there any plans to include integrated encryption routines in the php core? At the moment the optional mcrypt lib