Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/11/14 16:25, Chris Wright wrote: > An 18 month release cycle for minors and over a decade since the last > major is hardly "daily". You do not need to update the libraries when > they start to use the new language features, but if you want to use the > new library features, and those features

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Wright
On 4 November 2014 16:07, Lester Caine wrote: > On 04/11/14 14:51, Kristopher wrote: > > Every IDE I've used has always working nicely with docblock > annotation > > and typing and has provided the facilities people seem to think > should > > be built in to PHP. > > > > You understand

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/11/14 14:45, Peter Lind wrote: > I'd suggest an alternative: fork PHP and only merge bugfixes in to your > own version. Best of both worlds, you get to keep your beloved PHP > pristine without any of the cumbersome new features, and the rest of us > can enjoy an evolving language. In hind si

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/11/14 14:51, Kristopher wrote: > Every IDE I've used has always working nicely with docblock annotation > and typing and has provided the facilities people seem to think should > be built in to PHP. > > You understand you don't have to use these new features, right? You can > co

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Kristopher
On Tue Nov 04 2014 at 9:31:06 AM Lester Caine wrote: > > Every IDE I've used has always working nicely with docblock annotation > and typing and has provided the facilities people seem to think should > be built in to PHP. > You understand you don't have to use these new features, right? You can

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Peter Lind
It sounds like you're suggesting that all work on PHP that does not boil down to bug fixes be stopped. I'd suggest an alternative: fork PHP and only merge bugfixes in to your own version. Best of both worlds, you get to keep your beloved PHP pristine without any of the cumbersome new features, and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/11/14 14:01, Florian Margaine wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Lester Caine > wrote: > > On 04/11/14 13:13, Florian Margaine wrote: > > On the basis of 'If it's not broken', what is actually broken, > and what > > is just a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Florian Margaine
Hi, On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 04/11/14 13:13, Florian Margaine wrote: > > On the basis of 'If it's not broken', what is actually broken, and > what > > is just a matter of 'I don't like that way of working'? > > > > I have a working Annotation system th

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/11/14 13:13, Florian Margaine wrote: > On the basis of 'If it's not broken', what is actually broken, and what > is just a matter of 'I don't like that way of working'? > > I have a working Annotation system that has not changed since I started > working with PHP. PHPEclise s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Florian Margaine
Hi, On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On the basis of 'If it's not broken', what is actually broken, and what > is just a matter of 'I don't like that way of working'? > > I have a working Annotation system that has not changed since I started > working with PHP. PHPEclise s

[PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
On the basis of 'If it's not broken', what is actually broken, and what is just a matter of 'I don't like that way of working'? I have a working Annotation system that has not changed since I started working with PHP. PHPEclise simple displays the information from the docblock comments and allows