Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling libxml2

2004-04-04 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > Given our history with bundled libraries (gd, expat, sqlite, etc...) > we always tend to lag (often quite a bit) behind the official stable > release even if we do sync the libraries relatively frequently the > release cycle of the libraries themselves

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling libxml2

2004-04-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
It doesn't have to be in the main CVS but it should be in some CVS so that we can do the necessary tag and know which version went into which PHP version. It's much cleaner than taking whatever version is placed in some odd dir on snaps. Andi At 06:44 PM 4/3/2004 +0100, Wez Furlong wrote: I'll

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling libxml2

2004-04-03 Thread Wez Furlong
I'll avoid the actual issue here, and just say that keeping tarballs in our CVS is something to avoid (we can keep them elsewhere and stick them in our distro if/when appropriate). --Wez. > We'd need to have someone who'll maintain this by probably having a stable > libXML2 tarball someplace in o

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling libxml2

2004-04-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 12:37 PM 4/3/2004 -0500, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: On April 3, 2004 12:05 pm, Andi Gutmans wrote: > We'd need to have someone who'll maintain this by probably having a stable > libXML2 tarball someplace in our CVS, and then change makedist to create > the two packages (one with and one without lib

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling libxml2

2004-04-03 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
On April 3, 2004 12:05 pm, Andi Gutmans wrote: > We'd need to have someone who'll maintain this by probably having a stable > libXML2 tarball someplace in our CVS, and then change makedist to create > the two packages (one with and one without libXML2). This should make > everyone happy as long as

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bundling libxml2

2004-04-03 Thread Andi Gutmans
We'd need to have someone who'll maintain this by probably having a stable libXML2 tarball someplace in our CVS, and then change makedist to create the two packages (one with and one without libXML2). This should make everyone happy as long as it's properly maintained. Andi At 01:29 PM 4/2/200

[PHP-DEV] Bundling libxml2

2004-04-02 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
Did we ever come to a conclusion whether we're going to provide a version of PHP 5 that bundles libxml2? Now that we're in RC, I think we should aim to produce packages that are as identical to the final release as possible, so we don't end up with any unexpected surprises later on in the process.

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-07-01 Thread John Coggeshall
> We have no intentions to become maintainers of a different codebase, > integrating libxml into the PHP distribution is a completely separate > issue. Please read the archives. This message must have been stuck in my queue, because i sent this Friday. It's outdated, and as far as I care is a d

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-07-01 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:16 28/06/2003, John Coggeshall wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 13:08, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Because, this will encourage people to do : > > --without-xml > > Instead of upgrading the system libxml2. If someone actually *needs* XML support for whatever they are doing, and they have absolutely

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-07-01 Thread John Coggeshall
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 13:08, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Because, this will encourage people to do : > > --without-xml > > Instead of upgrading the system libxml2. If someone actually *needs* XML support for whatever they are doing, and they have absolutely no option but to upgrade libxml2, they'll

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-29 Thread Adam Dickmeiss
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:25:39PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Hi, > > So I figure I'll restart this discussion. There are a couple of reasons > I want to bundle libxml2: > > 1) XML support is crucial. You may not like XML, but its the standard > for data exchange these days, and is incredi

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Maxim Maletsky
On 27 Jun 2003 12:25:39 -0400 Sterling Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > So I figure I'll restart this discussion. There are a couple of reasons > I want to bundle libxml2: > > 1) XML support is crucial. You may not like XML, but its the standard > for data exchange these days, and

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Jani Taskinen
Remember the issues with --with-mysql and some third party library linking with external libs..? --Jani On 27 Jun 2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: >Because, this will encourage people to do : > >--without-xml > >Instead of upgrading the system libxml2. > >-Sterling > >On Fri,

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Andi Gutmans
I definitely think we should give it a try! +1 for bundling. Andi At 12:25 PM 27/6/2003 -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: Hi, So I figure I'll restart this discussion. There are a couple of reasons I want to bundle libxml2: 1) XML support is crucial. You may not like XML, but its the standard for

RE: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Mike Robinson
Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 01:08:08PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > Because, this will encourage people to do : > > > > --without-xml > > > > Instead of upgrading the system libxml2. > > If your first argument about the utter importance of XML/PHP is true, then > I'm s

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Anil Madhavapeddy
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 01:08:08PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Because, this will encourage people to do : > > --without-xml > > Instead of upgrading the system libxml2. If your first argument about the utter importance of XML/PHP is true, then I'm sure they won't mind updating their system

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Elfyn McBratney
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Hi, > > So I figure I'll restart this discussion. There are a couple of reasons > I want to bundle libxml2: > > 1) XML support is crucial. You may not like XML, but its the standard > for data exchange these days, and is incredibly important when > i

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Kalowsky
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Because, this will encourage people to do : > > --without-xml > > Instead of upgrading the system libxml2. > So you are forcing users and installations to use xml when they might not want to upgrade their libxml? This seems like a rather wrong way to

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Rob Richards
From: Sterling Hughes > Hi, > > So I figure I'll restart this discussion. There are a couple of reasons > I want to bundle libxml2: >From yesterday's thread on this, I thought the plan was to bundle for the initital beta and see how it goes. Has that plan been scrapped? Rob -- PHP Inte

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Sterling Hughes
Because, this will encourage people to do : --without-xml Instead of upgrading the system libxml2. -Sterling On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 13:04, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: > On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:25:39PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > > > 2) Libxml2 may be installed everywhere, but the version

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Anil Madhavapeddy
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:25:39PM -0400, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > 2) Libxml2 may be installed everywhere, but the version we rely upon > isn't available everywhere. As witnessed by a message to the list by > michael, and a problem that someone else had over IRC. Its fine to > allow people to

Re: [PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Jani Taskinen
On 27 Jun 2003, Sterling Hughes wrote: >Hi, > >So I figure I'll restart this discussion. There are a couple of reasons >I want to bundle libxml2: > >1) XML support is crucial. You may not like XML, but its the standard >for data exchange these days, and is incredibly important when >interoperati

[PHP-DEV] bundling libxml2

2003-06-27 Thread Sterling Hughes
Hi, So I figure I'll restart this discussion. There are a couple of reasons I want to bundle libxml2: 1) XML support is crucial. You may not like XML, but its the standard for data exchange these days, and is incredibly important when interoperating with external services. A PHP installation s