> I'm sorry that this debate is hampered by personal attacks, vague
> accusations
> and clique mentality. I wish it will eventually rise above it. I wish
> there were
> fewer messages like this one and more about ways to remediate the
> situation.
With that I absolutely agree so let's stop here.
On 25 July 2014 16:06, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> I'd prefer that over a non-vague and very public character assassination
> that me and others are experiencing instead.
I cannot comment on that statement but character assassination is bad
either way, sure.
> I'm also wondering why you're replying t
The circumstances that surround the development of NG are very much in the
past now. Secret or not, it's done and we now have NG. This is a good
thing™ and
is not the subject of the debate nor a need for people to be apologising
for their hard work.
Ignoring the "having a go" items that appear to
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 3:59 PM
> To: Zeev Suraski
> Cc: Ferenc Kovacs; Laruence; PHP Internals
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP NG "document lacking" argument
>
> On 25 July 2014 14:
d the damage outdate docs?
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:58:47 +0200
> From: php...@gmail.com
> To: z...@zend.com
> CC: tyr...@gmail.com; larue...@php.net; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP NG "document lacking" argument
>
> On 25 July 2014 14:14,
On 25 July 2014 14:14, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>> I do think that some people simply doesn't like phpng (for reasons mostly
>> not
>> on technical grounds), and they are bringing up any issue which can hinder
>> the acceptance of phpng.
>
> I think you hit the nail on the head, Ferenc. That's why I'm
+1024... :-)
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发件人: larue...@gmail.com [mailto:larue...@gmail.com] 代表 Laruence
发送时间: 2014年7月25日 14:57
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主题: [PHP-DEV] About PHP NG "document lacking" argument
Hey:
First of all, I don't want to make *that* thead longer...
as you can see, s
> I do think that some people simply doesn't like phpng (for reasons mostly
> not
> on technical grounds), and they are bringing up any issue which can hinder
> the acceptance of phpng.
I think you hit the nail on the head, Ferenc. That's why I'm reluctant to
participate in this game.
Zeev
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On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> > Jocelyn,
> >
> > I think that a good migration guide is what we need here, and as Dmitry
> > and Ferenc said, much progress has been made there.
> >
> > I think we'd all welcome a
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Nikita Popov wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>>
>> > Jocelyn,
>> >
>> > I think that a good migration guide is what we need here, and as Dmitry
>> > and Ferenc said, much
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>
> > Jocelyn,
> >
> > I think that a good migration guide is what we need here, and as Dmitry
> > and Ferenc said, much progress has been made there.
> >
> > I think we'd all welcome a
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> Jocelyn,
>
> I think that a good migration guide is what we need here, and as Dmitry
> and Ferenc said, much progress has been made there.
>
> I think we'd all welcome a new edition of the Sara book, but it happens
> that the main people who
Jocelyn,
I think that a good migration guide is what we need here, and as Dmitry and
Ferenc said, much progress has been made there.
I think we'd all welcome a new edition of the Sara book, but it happens
that the main people who work on PHP internals aren't exactly the book
authoring types... W
Hi Laruence,
I do think that some people simply doesn't like phpng (for reasons mostly
not on technical grounds), and they are bringing up any issue which can
hinder the acceptance of phpng.
But I also think that documentation is important, and the reasoning that it
isn't based on the fact tha
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Laruence wrote:
> Hey:
>
> First of all, I don't want to make *that* thead longer...
>
> as you can see, some devers says critically phpng is lacking of
> document, and they make that as the main reason for them to against
> phpng.
>
> I have to say,
Hey:
First of all, I don't want to make *that* thead longer...
as you can see, some devers says critically phpng is lacking of
document, and they make that as the main reason for them to against
phpng.
I have to say, in my opinion it's totally ridiculous.
1. how many devers i
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